It sounds like you're on a budget, and you know what bike you *actually* 
want. In 2007 I wanted a touring bike, but the Rivendell's seemed too 
expensive. I've spent thousands of dollars going through 5-7 different 
bikes and frames, wheeling and dealing, swapping stuff, upgrading 
components, never really satisfied. Now in 2020, I bought the bike I should 
have purchased in the first place. I wish that I would've just bit the 
bullet and bought the right bike in the beginning. That money spent along 
the way seems like a waste now, but it did help develop my tastes.

If you do buy a bike I would get the one that has the most similar sized 
components and geometry to your dream bike, so that eventually you can just 
move the parts to a new frame. That's why I still have a very nice 26" 
handbuilt dynamo wheelset. Wanna buy it? :)
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:56:11 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> First time poster, but I've been lurking for a few weeks now and really 
> enjoy seeing the community you have here and all of your beautiful bikes. 
>
> I was hoping to gauge some opinions or get some suggestions from some of 
> you on a Riv-style build that I am hoping to put together soon. 
> Unfortunately, I'm not currently in a financial position to own a real 
> Rivendell, but because I have such an affinity for the style of bikes and 
> philosophy behind them, I'm planning on building something that can play 
> the role until the day comes that I can have the real deal. 
>
> Presently, I am choosing between two bikes that are listed for sale in my 
> area: one is a 1983 Specialized Expedition and the other is a 1992 
> Bridgestone XO-2. 
>
> In one corner, we have one of the most well-renowned, production touring 
> bikes ever made, and in the other, a brainchild of the man himself. 
> Ultimately, I don't feel like I could go wrong with either, but I wanted to 
> present this to you fine people to see if you have any thoughts or have 
> experience with either or both of these bikes.
>
> Because I already have a road bike that I would be more inclined to take 
> for longer, faster rides, the purpose of this bike would mainly be for 
> commuting and more leisurely rides around town with my partner. It would be 
> outfitted with racks, fenders, and a dynamo set up. Also, regardless of 
> whether I decide to go with the Expedition or not, I am planning on using 
> some kind of upright or swept-back bars. Basically this: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35377964@N06/3337138600/in/album-72157614731857771/
>
> Given that both bikes are my size and both cost around the same price, my 
> pro/con list looks something like this: for the Expedition, it was not 
> designed to ridden as more of a hybrid and so might not handle the way I 
> would like with up-right bars. The XO-2 was, but it doesn't have some of 
> the feature that I like in the Expedition (internal wiring for the dynamo, 
> loooooong chainstays, mid-fork eyelets for the front rack, and of course a 
> lugged frame without a unicrown fork--looks matter!). For the XO-2, I like 
> the wider tires even if they are 26'. It might mean going a little slower, 
> but this bike isn't being built for speed, and the added comfort of the 
> larger tires would be nice. And then of course, it was actually designed by 
> Grant Petersen to do the kind of riding that I'm describing. If my goal is 
> to create a faux Rivendell, compromising with a prototypical version makes 
> a lot of sense, but I would hate to be the person who sacrifices overall 
> quality for the sake of some kind of cult appeal (even if I have bought in 
> to a certain degree already).
>
> I'm open to any thoughts that you all might have and would love to hear 
> about experiences with one or both of these bicycles.
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
>
>
>

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