I agree with many of the responses, especially Jason’s: - The Hillborne rides smoother - The Hillborne tracks nicer - The Hillborne feels more intuitively responsive
I had a Cross Check with mustache bars for a couple of years as my “discount Riv wannabe” and was never thrilled with the ride. It always felt a little dead to me. I also spent a lot of money trying to make it more Riv-like including buying a new fork to get the bars up higher. That made it look ridiculous but was more comfortable. When I finally bought my Hillborne, I regretted the time and money I wasted on the Surly. I learned a lot about modifying a bike, but that was an expensive lesson. The Hillborne’s ride was SO MUCH nicer. It is much more stable and responsive (without being at all twitchy). It is the most comfortable bike I’ve ever owned. It could handle a slightly wider tire (45s on the Sam, 42s on the CC) . And, as an added bonus, no more toe-verlap. I had a lot of problems with that on the Cross Check. Wish I’d just bought the Hillborne first for many more years of more enjoyable riding. John Niles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1fa0c5ff-04fe-43f4-b561-4d5d394ac22fo%40googlegroups.com.
