Yes, quite a few group members have called the SH the "perfect Riv," or words to that effect, and I was set to buy one when they became available. No longer. I wish they had left well enough, or maybe even "perfect," alone. I agree variety would be nice -- I don't think chainstay length is as cut-and-dried a design decision as the latest email made it sound, "the chainstays were too short." There are always trade offs in bike design and although I agree that *longish* stays are good, I think Riv has taken that idea a bit too far or, at least, applied it too widely. Of course, up to them. They dig it, I don't, no big deal, I will buy the parts and tools instead. On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 10:52:22 AM UTC-7 Joel wrote:
> > S, this is the second time I have heard this in 2 days, here and on the FB > RBW site. I would hope the chainstays in the Sam would remain the same so > we would have some variety. I found an Orange Sam, new at a decent price > but I am not sure on the orange, but now it is a big maybe. > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 1:40 PM S <sbl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree that the design looks very close to the Avid Shorty. I still plan >> to buy a pair, if they aren't too expensive. >> >> I like that Riv is offering more original parts and tools. I think this >> could be a growth area for them, especially the tools, which usually sell >> out instantly. And since their frame designs have begun to diverge from my >> tastes -- eg, I am disappointed the new Hillborne will have ball and socket >> seat stay ends and longer chainstays -- the parts and tools give me a way >> to keep supporting them. >> >> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 2:29:59 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I was hoping for a simpler, old-school sort of cantilever, more like the >>> Rene Herse version which while wildly priced, ticks all the boxes of what >>> I'd like in a cantilever brake (Post style pads with toe-in washers, pads >>> open up wide past the frame). >>> >>> I can't say much about the Riv design though as I've not seem them in >>> person as to how they work, or tire/frame clearance and all. The blueprint >>> appears complicated though. >>> >>> Cantilevers matter to me, I prefer what the bike industry must consider >>> "not very user friendly" as I find that comical as they ARE friendly ! The >>> kind with post style pads and washers for toe in. Infinite adjustabilty. >>> >>> V-brakes and "user friendly" ? Nah ... what fun is that ? !!! >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DNFWIlqEKk4/unsubscribe >> . >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a19867c6-e7d8-42ab-8216-e9217dcbd59an%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a19867c6-e7d8-42ab-8216-e9217dcbd59an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- > ~IMPORTANT~ Note to all~~ EMAIL ETIQUETTE > If you forward this email, please highlight and delete the forwarding > history, which includes my email address and maybe others. It is a courtesy > to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all > over the world. Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from obtaining > addresses, prevents viruses from being propagated, and limits the > proliferation of spam. Also, please use the “BCC” area instead of “TO” and > “CC” when forwarding to several people at once. > ~~Thank you~~ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/60026004-b610-4022-93bb-d1863820b1f1n%40googlegroups.com.
