I've said many times that I wish my Hunqapillar was tig welded, powder 
coated a single neutral color and half the price.  

Colored head-tubes and splashy decals aren't my thing and are something I 
have to tolerate since nobody else* makes what I want in a bike. 

I do like the attention to detail, quality construction and overall good 
design of Rivendells.   

* There are similar options out there but most either have too short a 
top-tube or disk brakes, or both, neither of which works for me.  

On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 4:02:23 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> There have indeed been some cool collaboration frames, though I feel like 
> they all suffer from the same sales-related issue as Rivs themselves often 
> have: they're ahead of their time.  Rivendells from 5 or 10 years ago would 
> fly off the shelves today compared to their sales at the time, because 
> their features and geometry are now the hot thing.  I feel like bikes like 
> the Soma San Marcos suffered in the same way.  I love that Grant keeps 
> pushing forward with his newest ideas rather than making bucks off the 
> older ideas.  
>
> Totally agree that the lack of a TIG medium-duty bike is, at least to me, 
> a huge gaping hole in the lineup which maybe isn't as attractive to fill to 
> Riv as it seems like it would be to me. I feel like a TIG version of a 
> Hillborne, with the longer front center of the Platypus, would be basically 
> the perfect everyday bike. Nothing really exists like it currently. Nothing 
> like the Charlie exists either (swoopy tube road bike with long wheelbase?  
> Never seen it before), which is why I'm real sad that the world will have 
> to wait a bit longer for it.  
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 at 13:50:40 UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Grant has designed more than a few bikes for other companies. The one I 
>> can think of off the top of my head is the Brooklyn Bike Company Driggs. 
>> But I know what you’re saying…there’s something about that Rivendell name 
>> on the bike.
>> Funny enough, I recall that back in 1994 or so, when I bought my 
>> Atlantis, it was because I reallwanted a Riv, but I just didn’t have the 
>> scratch for a “real Rivendell AR”. 
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 13:17, Tom Wyland <tomw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If I was Riv President for a day, I would ponder if adding a lower-cost 
>> all-rounder bike would cut into sales of the other models. Clem and 
>> Roadini  (tigged lower-cost frames) are on the rough terrain and road ends 
>> of the spectrum.  The premium equivalents are the Hillibikes  and AHH.  All 
>> of the bikes in the all-rounder territory are the premium type, and there 
>> are quite a few models that functionally overlap (Platy, Sam, Atlantis, Joe 
>> Appa). Adding a lower-cost alternative for the already overlapping premium 
>> models would just cut into the sales of those without further 
>> differentiation. 
>>
>>
>> I would partner with a brand that made lower-cost frames and offer those 
>> without Riv branding.  Then capture all of those other brand's customers 
>> and offer them to ladder up to a Rivendell.  Basically use the lower cost 
>> brand as a channel to sell the more premium Rivs.  And you wouldn't dilute 
>> your brand with a lower-priced model with little differentiation.  
>> Companies like Handsome or Soma might make sense.
>>
>> The good news is 1) I'm not Riv President for a Day and 2) due to the 
>> current bike boom they'll sell whatever bikes they ordered in an hour.  
>> Boom.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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