Max, you forgot your favorite riding position: NO HANDS.

Joe, the club folks are really, really nice. The young racers in the super-fast 
groups don’t talk to us, but I guess I don’t talk to them, either, so…

> On Jul 26, 2022, at 11:23 PM, Max S <msht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think that's just part of the design intent for the bike, and the reason 
> the drop bar is such a persistent design element. I think that on a properly 
> set-up road bike, I should have at least 3 positions: 1) Chillin', 2) 
> Groovin', and 3) Jammin' – tops, hoods, and drops, respectively. When I'm 
> "Chillin'", I want to be comfortable, and my position may not be all that 
> different than when I'm riding my commuter bike with swept-back bars. 
> 
> - Max "gotta work on my flexibility as I age" in A2
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 5:14:52 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> What the dropbar riders would tell you is they have the option of that 
>> higher position plus a lower one. Which is fair if you're going to use it, 
>> but in all my years of riding drops I hardly ever did. Gimme my Billies! 
>> 
>> Joe "upright and catching wind as the Good Lord intended" Bernard
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 4:29:03 AM UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>> It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club.  A 
>>> typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles.  A good bunch of 
>>> people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop 
>>> bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright bars. 
>>>    In the lousy cell phone shot I took from the back of the group, Leah is 
>>> the second white helmet from from the front left.  Notice her posture 
>>> compared to the body position of all the riders on their drop bars.
>>> 
>>> It was that way the whole ride. Most club riders assume their drop bars 
>>> make them faster, after all, EVERYBODY uses them right?  
>>> 
>>> Marc
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