Except that the OP is specifically asking about his Homer. Not to nit pick 
...😊

Ryan (retired software developer/current linguistics student...so you know 
where I'm coming from)

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:27:21 AM UTC-5 Greg J wrote:

> I would not hesitate to tour on the Sam, although I suppose it depends on 
> what you're carrying and how long you're going for.  I've toured on a 
> Rambouillet and a Road Standard with a full set of panniers on weeklong 
> trips, and it was fine.  You say "road touring," so I assume you're not 
> planning on carrying a week's worth of food, etc. With a reasonable load, 
> the Sam should be fine - try it and report back!
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 7:22:03 PM UTC-7 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> The AHH uses Oversized (OS) tubing (1-1/8" TT & 1-1/4" DT), which is more 
>> rigid than Standard (Std) tubing (1" TT & 1-1/8" DT) which most of the 
>> frames discussed are.  The extra 1/8" increased diameter results in a OS 
>> tube having about the same rigidity as a Std tube which is thicker by 
>> 0.2mm.   
>>
>> It seems the AHH uses OS tubes with butting of 0.8mm x 0.5mm x 0.8mm, 
>> which is fairly thin tubing.   Grant never stated what tubing thickness he 
>> uses.  This would be have the same rigidity as s Std tube of 1.0mm x 0.7mm 
>> x 1.0mm.    IF the AHH tubing is thicker than what I stated, THEN it the 
>> equivalent rigid Std tube would be thicker
>>
>>   My 1988 Schwinn Voyaguer (a full touring frame) uses Std Columbus Tenax 
>> tubing which by everything I can find has a 1" TT of 0.9mm x 0.7mm x 0.9mm 
>> and a 1-1/8" DT of 1.0mm x 0.7mm x 1.0mm.   So a AHH has tubing which is as 
>> rigid as the 88 Voyageur which was sold as full touring bike.  If the AHH 
>> tube is thicker than 8-5-8, then it is even more rigid than the 88 Voyaguer.
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:12:05 PM UTC-4 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question or the group.  I ride a Homer and considering using it 
>>> for road touring.  Since its not by definition a touring Rivendell, is 
>>> loaded touring pushing the envelope for this bike?
>>>
>>> thanks, 
>>> Lyman ATX
>>>
>>

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