Indeed, I never thought of that. I didn't self-teach myself that part! On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 4:13:15 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
> Ray, > Excellent idea about adjusting before installing the chain. That makes > sense. I think I was able to get my FD adjusted. It is working well so far. > Thanks all for your help. > Doug > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:10:46 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote: > >> I’ve always done my initial derailer adjustments before I install the >> chain. >> Front and rear both get installed and before the cable is connected I >> adjust the limit screw so that the front’s cage is centered on the small >> ring and the rear pulleys are centered on the small cog. >> Then I install the cables and take up the slack, cinch the cable, run >> through the range of motion a few times to set the housing in the >> ferrules. >> Then check the slack. >> Next, install the chain and run through the gears being careful not to >> run the chain into the spokes. >> >> Like Joe said, it can take a bot of fine tuning to get things perfect so >> I take my screwdriver and Allen wrench on a test ride. >> Getting the gross adjustment really close will minimize the fine tuning. >> >> Ray “also self taught many decades ago“ Varella >> >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:25 PM UTC-8 J J wrote: >> >>> Joe, you’re incredibly generous with your knowledge and experience. >>> Thank you!! I’ve learned so much from your contributions to this community, >>> and I very much appreciate the basics, too. The deeper I get into working >>> on my bikes myself, the more I understand that 1) the notion of bike >>> “standards” is hilarious and 2) what might be obvious to one person is not >>> at all obvious to another. Everyone starts somewhere. You’re a great >>> teacher, and you instruct with humor and kindness. >>> >>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 20:22, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I do what I can, Scott! Just don't ask me how to bleed hydraulic brakes >>> or set sag on a suspension fork. I barely know what those words even mean 😬 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:13:43 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote: >>> >>>> Joe, >>>> >>>> I appreciate the error on overshare/overstate philosophy. I'm happy to >>>> discard what I already know and treasure hunt for what I don't know. >>>> >>>> I'm more likely to get annoyed with a lack of explanation/clarification >>>> than too much. >>>> >>>> I'm here to learn, not show what I know. >>>> >>>> My knowledge toolbox has grown - plenty of which from you - in the >>>> short time I've been in the group. >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 5:00 PM, Doug Hansford >>>> <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It may be obvious to some but I appreciate the detail. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Apologies to anyone who thinks I'm explaining the obvious, I've >>>> learned over the years to start at "explain everything, assume nothing" >>>> and >>>> it's served me well. And as I said in my first post, I'm probably doing it >>>> all wrong! 😬 >>>> >>>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:52:07 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>> >>>> Trial and error bro! Basically you need the range of motion between L >>>> and H to cover the chainrings, and the cable pinched down so the shifter >>>> will move the cage through that range. >>>> >>>> If the shifter starts slipping you'll need to crank down on the bolt >>>> there. Silver thumbies have a little ring you turn, SunRace/Microshift use >>>> a hex bolt. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: >>>> >>>> Joe these are excellent instructions. My mistake is not leaving the >>>> cable loose when adjusting the low limit. Thanks!! >>>> Doug >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course I forget something. The cable gets tightened down (after the >>>> L setting is done) with the shifter in its most forward position, the >>>> cable >>>> is let out as much as it will go. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:57:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>> >>>> The way I do it was self-taught decades ago and no doubt wrong but it >>>> works so here goes: >>>> >>>> Chain in small front/big rear like you said, L and H screws all the way >>>> out, then I adjust the L screw to get the cage just inboard enough to >>>> clear >>>> the chain. That's my low position for the derailer, I know I dont want it >>>> swinging any closer to the frame. Now I tighten the cable at the clamp and >>>> shift to the big front/small rear. Is the fd getting my chain over to the >>>> big ring? Good, now I'm screwing the H limit in just far enough to keep >>>> the >>>> chain from overshifting and tossing the chain between the ring and >>>> crankarm. >>>> >>>> Once I've gotten this far I ride a bit to dial the L and H screws, >>>> often on the first try one or the other isn't quite right and I'm not >>>> getting enough travel to knock the chain to the next ring. >>>> >>>> Easy! 😂 >>>> >>>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:41:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: >>>> >>>> I want to tap into the collective knowledge here. I need to adjust my >>>> Shimano Deore front derailer on my Clem. It looks to be aligned properly. >>>> Is it proper to tighten the cable when the chain is on the small ring and >>>> largest rear cog? Should the H and L screws be all the way screwed in when >>>> I start the adjustment? I was able to get it to shift but the low screw is >>>> pretty much all the way out so it just seems to be off in some way. And, >>>> after a couple of rides it seems to come back out of adjustment. 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