Joe,
I appreciate the error on overshare/overstate philosophy.  I'm happy to discard 
what I already know and treasure hunt for what I don't know.
I'm more likely to get annoyed with a lack of explanation/clarification than 
too much.
I'm here to learn, not show what I know.
My knowledge toolbox has grown - plenty of which from you - in the short time 
I've been in the group.
Scott

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  On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 5:00 PM, Doug Hansford<dhansford1...@gmail.com> wrote: 
  It may be obvious to some but I appreciate the detail. 

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On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:



Apologies to anyone who thinks I'm explaining the obvious, I've learned over 
the years to start at "explain everything, assume nothing" and it's served me 
well. And as I said in my first post, I'm probably doing it all wrong! 😬

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:52:07 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

Trial and error bro! Basically you need the range of motion between L and H to 
cover the chainrings, and the cable pinched down so the shifter will move the 
cage through that range.
If the shifter starts slipping you'll need to crank down on the bolt there. 
Silver thumbies have a little ring you turn, SunRace/Microshift use a hex bolt. 

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

Joe these are excellent instructions. My mistake is not leaving the cable loose 
when adjusting the low limit. Thanks!!Doug

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On Dec 3, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:



Of course I forget something. The cable gets tightened down (after the L 
setting is done) with the shifter in its most forward position, the cable is 
let out as much as it will go. 



On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:57:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

The way I do it was self-taught decades ago and no doubt wrong but it works so 
here goes:
Chain in small front/big rear like you said, L and H screws all the way out, 
then I adjust the L screw to get the cage just inboard enough to clear the 
chain. That's my low position for the derailer, I know I dont want it swinging 
any closer to the frame. Now I tighten the cable at the clamp and shift to the 
big front/small rear. Is the fd getting my chain over to the big ring? Good, 
now I'm screwing the H limit in just far enough to keep the chain from 
overshifting and tossing the chain between the ring and crankarm. 
Once I've gotten this far I ride a bit to dial the L and H screws, often on the 
first try one or the other isn't quite right and I'm not getting enough travel 
to knock the chain to the next ring. 
Easy! 😂

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:41:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

I want to tap into the collective knowledge here. I need to adjust my Shimano 
Deore front derailer on my Clem. It looks to be aligned properly. Is it proper 
to tighten the cable when the chain is on the small ring and largest rear cog? 
Should the H and L screws be all the way screwed in when I start the 
adjustment? I was able to get it to shift but the low screw is pretty much all 
the way out so it just seems to be off in some way. And, after a couple of 
rides it seems to come back out of adjustment. Any advice would be most 
appreciated. Doug





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