Also, from my experience, it's not possible to totally re-proof the 
carradice capes. Even if you could, it's a big pain to proof them. 

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:49:20 AM UTC-8 Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:

> I'd suggest you try to find a used Grundens poncho that riv used to sell. 
> They're way bigger than other models, super durable, don't have an 
> unnecessary hood. I've tried other brands, but the riv version can't be 
> beat. 
>
> It's really to bad they aren't available anymore. James from Riv said he'd 
> see if there are any extras hidden away, but I haven't heard back. I assume 
> not. I do worry that I'll never be able to replace mine if something 
> happens to it though!
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:55 AM UTC-8 a spen wrote:
>
>> I love a poncho when the wind allows, but when it's too blustry I use a 
>> rain jacket and Rainlegs Chaps** (such as in the Clevercycles link below).  
>> I bought my first pair from Wall Bikes in NOLA (who remembers them? Sadly 
>> the owner retired and closed up shop) and got a good 10+ years out of 
>> them.  Well worth the $$ IMHO.
>>
>> (https://www.clevercycles.com/rainlegs-rain-chaps.html )
>>
>> Al
>>
>> **sorry if someone mentioned these already and I missed the post
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:18:00 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I will say that it's been so long since I used a poncho that I forgot 
>>> about pooling. Last year I splurged and picked up a Gorewear C5 (
>>> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/09/review-gorewear-c5-shakedry-1985-jacket.html).
>>>  
>>> It is amazing piece of gear, and I'm enough of a cheapskate that my friends 
>>> were amazed that I had good things to say.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:13 AM Slin <sli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Luke - Right now I use a Cleverhood because I already have it. I 
>>>> probably wouldn't buy it again because they're so pricey and a bit 
>>>> over-engineered (tech-fabric, and magnetic arm holes).
>>>>
>>>> If I were looking for a replacement, I'd look at the Carradice waxed 
>>>> canvas, or the Blue Lug Fairweather Poncho first. But I wish they came in 
>>>> high viz colors/designs. 
>>>> https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-packable-rain-poncho-algae-green.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @Carlos and @Patrick - 
>>>> http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2010-04-25/
>>>>
>>>> [image: yehuda.gif]
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:01:40 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can assure you that water pools in the valley between your arms when 
>>>>> riding hoods on drop bars. I rode many miles watching the pretty color 
>>>>> swirls from the oils (petrochemical?) leaching from the material in the 
>>>>> puddle between my forearms, and emptying the puddle (during heavy rain) 
>>>>> every few hundred yards. This happens more with heavy ponchos like the 
>>>>> Duxback that don't flutter quite as much as lighter ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM reca...@gmail.com <reca...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've used the waxed canvas Carradice poncho for a little while now. 
>>>>>> It works great ... The only other thing that keeps me from recommending 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> to everyone is that if you ride upright bars like any of the Riv 
>>>>>> variants, 
>>>>>> the water will pool between the bars. Not a big deal but it happens as 
>>>>>> these seem to be designed more for drop bars?
>>>>>
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