!!!40 lb front???!!! I weigh 170 and the 2.35s roll well on pavement at 12
psi front, were it not for the flop.

The flop I feel at sub 16-17 (having just discovered this to be the minimum
to avoid said flop) is oversteer: you lean into a turn on a firm surface
(since you don't feel this on loose surfaces) and the wheel wants to turn
further than you intended.

Again, 17 psi front is fine for this and, note, I use drops and ride in the
hooks for most of my pavement riding and thus weight the front wheel more;
still, no flop at 17 psi.

Anything above 20 front/25 rear feels as if the tires are solid. Perhaps
it's the tiny (17" medium; I'm 5'10" in bare feet) and heavy-tubed Monocog
frame?

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Rene Sterental <[email protected]> wrote:

> What is front-end dive in corners?
>
> When I tried mine, 40lbs on the front tire based on my weight, on
> turns it felt like the tires were pulling the handlebar into the turn.
> Is that it?
>
> René
>
> On 5/23/10, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yah, 26" wheels are for weenies. Real men ride 700c 2.35 Big Apples.
> >
> > Seriously (No!) that looks like a nice bike.
> >
> > I just did a 14 mile, 70 minute out and back that included several miles
> of
> > climbing on sandy, steepish dirt roads on ABQ's NW mesa, riding the Sow
> or
> > Silk Purse Refurbished Monocog 29er with the new Liteskins. If I am
> honest
> > with myself, I have to say that I am not sure that the Liteskins perform
> any
> > better than the original, wire bead BAs of the same size, but, in my
> > imagination at least, they did very well, floating on extended patches of
> 2"
> > to 3" sand and smoothing the washboard of the dirt roads I rid directly
> NW
> > from my starting point. I bailed twice or thrice when deep sand and
> inclines
> > combined to discourage me, but over 8 miles of dirt I had to walk no more
> > than 150 feet.
> >
> > On the six or so miles of pavement, the BA Liteskins rolled smoothly at
> > 16/19 and, on the 45 mm Snocat SLs, exhibited no front end dive in
> corners;
> > it looks as if 16-17 lb front is the sweet spot for all round
> dirt/pavement.
> > Twelve psi is better for sand and washboard but then you suffer from
> > sidewall flop in pavement/firm dirt corners.
> >
> > Lastly, the new organic front pads make a huge difference to the Road BB7
> > front disk, itself recently swapped to a 180 mm rotor. Not quite up to
> the
> > braking with optimum wide-profile cantis or V brakes, but good enough for
> > me. (The levers are old Dura Ace aeros.)
> >
> > The new Liteskins measured 60 mm when first installed on the SnoCats;
> after
> > a day or two they were up to 61.3 mm; I expect that, after another week
> they
> > will stretch to match the 65 mm of the original wire bead BAs.
> >
> > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:20 PM, stevep33 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I put some Big Apple Liteskin 26x2.35's on myrigid Salsa mountain
> >> bike.  I can't compare them to the regular BA's, but these tires are
> >> awesome.  They are fast on the pavement and great on trails. Not as
> >> grippy as knobbies but not slippery either.  Perfect tires for my
> >> multi surface rides.
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988...@n06/sets/72157624113649982/
> >>
> >>
> >>
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