Wheels & tires I suspect.
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 10, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Doug H. <dhansford1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jake, That is interesting that the bikes are about equal in weight but one rides "zippier and lighter". I've heard this before in comparing the Clem to the Platypus but I just don't know what qualities makes a bike feel zippier if it isn't lighter weight. Thanks, Doug
On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 12:25:06 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with what Garth is saying about weight/size differences. Depending on the respective builds and how the sizing falls, it's possible that a Platypus could be every bit as long and heavy as a Clem. As people in the 81-84cm pbh range, I have a 55cm Platypus and my dad has a 52cm Clem, and the Clem is probably lighter in part due to the smaller wheel size. Both are great bikes, and I do find the Platypus rides zippier and lighter, but in terms of lifting, transport, and storage there is not much difference between the two. Hope this helps!
Jake
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:06:09 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
Chung, If your wife finds the Clem too long and heavy a Platypus is not going to make a effective difference in regards to weight or maneuvering. What would is a frame like a Soma Buena Vista (rim brake or disc) or Velo Orange Polyvalent low kicker. Both have relatively typical chainstays and wheelbases and are going to be easier to pick up and maneuver simply due to the fact that they have "normal" wheelbases and chainstays so are going to be inherently lighter to begin with. There's a notable difference in geometry though, with the VO being more low trail and the Soma mid-high. Plus the Soma has quite steep seat tube angles so if using a Brooks you may not be able to get the seat back where you want. Thankfully they do both use a 27.2 post though.
Note, the Platy isn't a step through either so all three compared to a Clem are more like step around I suppose !
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
I don’t know about the Platypus, but my wife rides a Betty Foy. It rides ligh/zippy and she loves it. Currently has a Wald 137 front basket and a Riv trunk bag. They’re a bit hard to come by but Cheviot was essentially the same bike.
Tires are 650b x 38 with fenders. Not sure I’d go larger.
On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:21:50 AM UTC-7 chungeu...wrote: Hi,
I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far. However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train. Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit setup to make it more zippy?
Best, Chung
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