"Some won’t like to hear this, but honestly, it’s the truth."
Whether some want to hear it or not, honestly, it's an opinion. On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:35:56 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote: > What’s your wife wanting out of the bike? If it’s aesthetics, and > specifically to steel/lugged frames, Riv is great. > > But if it’s ride quality, I’m not so disillusioned with Rivendell (despite > having owned several and own one now)that I can objectively say, there are > plenty of other bikes that will serve her equally well, IF NOT BETTER. Even > ones from the big companies. Light and nimble, or smooth and cushy, upright > or racy, or really any characteristic you like about any Rivendell can be > replicated and/or improved on. > Some won’t like to hear this, but honestly, it’s the truth. > I’m still a Rivendell fan and still on the lookout for an elusive model > that I hope to own (again). Just don’t be afraid to try other bikes out. > There are lots of great ones out there. And in places you may not expect. > > On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 12:37:48 PM UTC-7 chungeu...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Thank you so much for all the responses! >> >> Since we are living not too far from the Riv HQ, we may visit and see if >> how she likes the Platy. >> She rides 45cm Clem, so we may need to check if her PBH fits 50cm Platy. >> If that goes well, we may stick with Riv. Otherwise, I will take a look >> outside and check out other brands. >> >> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:38:30 PM UTC+1 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Wheels & tires I suspect. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Jake, >>> >>> That is interesting that the bikes are about equal in weight but one >>> rides "zippier and lighter". I've heard this before in comparing the Clem >>> to the Platypus but I just don't know what qualities makes a bike feel >>> zippier if it isn't lighter weight. >>> Thanks, >>> Doug >>> >>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 12:25:06 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree with what Garth is saying about weight/size differences. >>>> Depending on the respective builds and how the sizing falls, it's possible >>>> that a Platypus could be every bit as long and heavy as a Clem. As people >>>> in the 81-84cm pbh range, I have a 55cm Platypus and my dad has a 52cm >>>> Clem, and the Clem is probably lighter in part due to the smaller wheel >>>> size. Both are great bikes, and I do find the Platypus rides zippier and >>>> lighter, but in terms of lifting, transport, and storage there is not much >>>> difference between the two. Hope this helps! >>>> >>>> Jake >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:06:09 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chung, If your wife finds the Clem too long and heavy a Platypus is >>>>> not going to make a effective difference in regards to weight or >>>>> maneuvering. What would is a frame like a Soma Buena Vista (rim brake or >>>>> disc) or Velo Orange Polyvalent low kicker. Both have relatively typical >>>>> chainstays and wheelbases and are going to be easier to pick up and >>>>> maneuver simply due to the fact that they have "normal" wheelbases and >>>>> chainstays so are going to be inherently lighter to begin with. There's a >>>>> notable difference in geometry though, with the VO being more low trail >>>>> and >>>>> the Soma mid-high. Plus the Soma has quite steep seat tube angles so if >>>>> using a Brooks you may not be able to get the seat back where you want. >>>>> Thankfully they do both use a 27.2 post though. >>>>> >>>>> Note, the Platy isn't a step through either so all three compared to a >>>>> Clem are more like step around I suppose ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578fd48f3a30004789cd9,5ee8f7ce7eaeb8001717ac2f >>>>> , >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know about the Platypus, but my wife rides a Betty Foy. It >>>>> rides ligh/zippy and she loves it. Currently has a Wald 137 front basket >>>>> and a Riv trunk bag. >>>>> They’re a bit hard to come by but Cheviot was essentially the same >>>>> bike. >>>>> >>>>> Tires are 650b x 38 with fenders. Not sure I’d go larger. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:21:50 AM UTC-7 chungeu...wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so >>>>> far. >>>>> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only >>>>> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when >>>>> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train. >>>>> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it >>>>> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this >>>>> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some >>>>> cockpit >>>>> setup to make it more zippy? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Chung >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1ce8ab09-9589-4ae5-8c8d-05962d69d105n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1ce8ab09-9589-4ae5-8c8d-05962d69d105n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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