Since you stated you are a bit new to all of this, I am curious as to 
exactly why you are so focused on a lower Q?

Bill S
San Diego

On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 9:26:06 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> Great ideas already. I have thought about the VO cranks, but want slightly 
> lower gearing if I'm going to the trouble of swapping.
>
> For Ron, or anyone else, does swapping the large ring for a bash guard 
> allow for a lower Q? I assumed that would stay the same?
>
> I'm going to look at the Alex cycle option, your pic is exactly what I 
> want to do. Is there a clever way to piece something like that together 
> from older stuff on eBay? Guessing it may take knowledge I don't have 
>
> Adam
>
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 11:15:31 AM UTC-6 Ron Mc wrote:
>
>> adding a ps - another use of your triple crank, there are some virtually 
>> weightless bash guards out there if you want to make it a compact double.  
>>
>> [image: Rw6vTY9.jpg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 10:44:54 AM UTC-6 Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Adam, 
>>> take a look at VO Rando crank.  
>>> If you can find them, Sun XCD makes their 50.8 BCD and chainrings, which 
>>> I'm running on 2 bikes.  .  
>>> I was on SJS Cycles last night looking at rings, and noticed they still 
>>> have some T/A-5 chainrings.  
>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 10:15:06 AM UTC-6 Adam wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Adjacent to the triples thread, I'm thinking about moving away from a 
>>>> triple to a double in order to get a lower Q.
>>>>
>>>> What are options for double cranksets that are around 40/26 or so? I 
>>>> think that would be doable with the Rene Herse cranks, but too much $$$ 
>>>> for 
>>>> me. Are there any cheaper options that will do that and give me a q in the 
>>>> 140s?
>>>>
>>>> Second, drivetrain stuff is a little new to me. What determines how 
>>>> small a q factor a specific bike can have? I'm assuming chainstays play a 
>>>> role here? This hypothetical project is for a Hillborne, so I'd be curious 
>>>> what folks have used to get low q on their Hillbornes. I'm assuming I may 
>>>> have to change the BB as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>

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