Well in the last year I changed from Albatross bars to Zipp XPLR 70 drop bars and a "simple" swap would only be possible if : 1. Using Ritchey/Davinci breakaway cable thingies. 2. Flexible with saddle choice and position. Here's where for me at least doesn't work so good as with a lower drop bar I needed a much more narrow saddle to facilitate the proper hip/leg fucntion that came with it. So right there the idea of a "simple" swap would include a saddle and/or post. 3. Flexible with bar/stem choice. I used the same 130mm stem as my frames already have longer reach forward of the BB than most Riv and stock frames of any brand. Mathiass's image has to be qualified though, as it appears the drop bars imaged are of a longer reach variety, 90-110mm. The bars I use have 70mm reach, and even shorter reach bars are available. You also have to take account of the postion change, and it's not just something that can be quantified by numbers. Even if you need a new stem, it's better that way anyways so you just swap the whole bar/stem setup, if it would be done of course.
Myself I think most people look and ride too scrunched on their bikes, reagrdless of the angle of their back. Swaps are fine for long term but not so simple for the short term. FWIW, I think most bike fitting "advice" isn't worth much at all, lest it encourage one to try positions for yourself, as you just can't do it on a stationary bike and assume everything will be fine while riding for hours. Don't assume there is only "one" position either. "Be as water".... as water(LIFE) can't be contained, constrained or limited in any way. Go "outside the box" of what anyone says in person or in print. The best fit-ter is thy Self. That said, all in all, two bikes set up in their own way are so much easier to just hop on and go as you like. On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:07:47 AM UTC-4 Ginz wrote: > I have a bike that swaps between Nitto Bullmoose and Albatross. Friction > shifting and mtb-style brake levers makes the swap very easy. > > Swapping between flat bar brake levers and drop levers is going to be more > fiddly because you will have to use cable splitters (with mtb levers you > can just slide the cable head out of the lever via the barrel adjuster's > slot provided your cable routing and housing length is similar for both > bars) and you will probably have to adjust the brake cable tension each > time you swap and make sure your brake pad clearence is good. > > From personal experience, I wouldn't want to swap bars more than once in a > while unless I really had a space limitation and extra time to plan my > rides. But, of course it can be done. > > Good Luck! > Ginz > > On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 8:24:41 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > >> Let me suggest that you get yourself some albastache bars. I think you >> would feel comfortable in all of your scenarios with those handlebars. They >> are the secret weapon in Rivendell's offerings. >> >> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 8:14:04 AM UTC-4 erik.s...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Answering on the practical side (easily swapping handlebars) rather than >>> the “should I own two bikes” side of things, Russ from Path Less Pedaled >>> did a video a while back on optimizing 1 bike for easy cockpit swaps. >>> Basically using a little Jagwire cable splitting doodad so the cables and >>> housing can mostly stay in place when swapping bars. It makes more sense if >>> your bike has full-length housing, but there may still be some nuggets in >>> there that are helpful. >>> >>> https://youtu.be/qj0qOyw_Es8?si=wKDJKxwHhdtKdBg0 >>> >>> Could be a good in-between option while you’re building up your second >>> bike ;) >>> >>> Erik, Philly >>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 2:23:08 AM UTC-4 Michael wrote: >>> >>>> Looking for a single bike for casual rides on bike >>>> paths/paved/gravel/dirt roads with the occasional 100 mile ride thrown in. >>>> Will suggest the Sam Hillborne, which I'm leaning towards. I assumed I >>>> would build it with drops for the long rides but I recently fell in love >>>> with albatross bars for upright lazy bike path rides. >>>> Is there a way to quickly/easily swap handlebars or are two bikes >>>> inevitable? >>>> Would a Sam with drops and an appaloosa or atlantis w/ albatross be a >>>> good combo or is that too much overlap? >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a73ce159-9c50-44d4-8589-7e4ded0d5352n%40googlegroups.com.
