Jason - Thanks! ! I love them all. It does feel to me like Grant applied 
some of his hillibike design ideas to a frame that is less stout and more 
flexy for added liveliness and fun on paved rides. I have yet to test them 
but I am fairly confident I can ride and climb faster on the Roadeo. 

On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:23:43 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three shown 
> in that order makes it look like the Roadeo morphs into a Hillibike and the 
> CHG is the intermediate stage, which is both funny and also indicative of 
> its purpose and ride quality, which I'm sure lands squarely in between 
> also! 
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:15 PM Valerie Yates <vya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've made an album with pics of my Roadeo, CHG, and Susie. Link to album 
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/8eFj66p3qGijaC7t5>.  The album includes a 
>> poor quality picture of the Gallop with the albastache bars that were on it 
>> when it arrived.
>>
>> Leah - the drop from Will's saddle to bars was an intentional choice. He 
>> chose a smaller frame with a raised up saddle to achieve a racier position. 
>> My bars on the Roadeo are set fairly level with my saddle. With drop-bar 
>> bikes, I tend to choose the frame with the minimum necessary stand-over 
>> clearance to ensure I can have level bars without having to raise them up 
>> high in a way that looks funky to me. I am not a weight-weenie but perhaps 
>> worth mentioning that the Roadeo as shown with bags but minus pump is 25 
>> lbs and 11 ounces. The Gallop, minus lock and pump, is 34 pounds. Some of 
>> the difference is my dynamo hub, lights, and and racks. I'd guess 5-6 
>> pounds is the difference without those accessories. 
>>
>> Here is a collage for anyone who doesn't want to follow the link. I 
>> measured from front to rear drop-out and both the Roadeo and Gallop are 
>> 175. Looking at where the vertical segment of the garage door intersects 
>> the frame is pretty interesting.  I don't really understand how all the 
>> extra space in the Gallop frame is achieved. Riv magic. 
>> [image: Bike Collage.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 8:15:30 AM UTC-6 diana....@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Chiming in to say that this particular conversation comes at a great 
>>> time for me! I was planning to buy the Roadini, but this whole thread is 
>>> causing me to second guess. Leah, I'm planning to go to Riv in June 
>>> sometime and ask them all the questions about Roadini vs CHG. I'll make 
>>> sure to post what I learn. Until then, fun to speculate and read others 
>>> thoughts.
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:54:37 AM UTC-6 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Valerie, I am also looking forward to your photos. I love show and 
>>>> tell!  Thank you for your posts which I have started looking forward to. 
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:32:29 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think the big thing is that the gallop was designed for sweptback 
>>>>> bars and the roadini was not. In the world of Rivendell I am not sure 
>>>>> what 
>>>>> that equates to because most of their bikes can go either way and Grant 
>>>>> has 
>>>>> said that is true here too if you use a short stem. That statement tells 
>>>>> me 
>>>>> that the effective top tube on the gallop will be longer and most likely 
>>>>> the wheelbase will be as well. If I can figure out how to measure those 
>>>>> things well I can give it a shot on my prototype and assuming the end 
>>>>> geometry is pretty similar to the production model we would get some 
>>>>> info. 
>>>>> Points for the gallop would be 1. Just different enough to get you a go 
>>>>> fast bike that still turns some heads 2. Geometry providing a better fit 
>>>>> for an alternative cockpit if you don't like the drops.
>>>>>
>>>>> Downside to the gallop is that the lower top tube allows a larger size 
>>>>> to fit better. I think its a good guess that Rivendell would steer people 
>>>>> that way and you likely would be very comfy on a size similar to the 
>>>>> larger 
>>>>> Platy but I think doing that might make drops a bit harder to be 
>>>>> comfortable on. It would likely need a very very short stem. I guess 
>>>>> thats 
>>>>> not a downside it just makes the sizing discussion a little more open on 
>>>>> the gallop than the Roadini. But wiht the new 50cm platy you will be 
>>>>> packed 
>>>>> with all sorts of sizing and comfort information to rely on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise weight and tubing specs are probably pretty similar between 
>>>>> the two
>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 8:03:31 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Woah, that’s a pretty steep drop from Will’s saddle to bars for me! 
>>>>>> But it’s pretty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I look forward to your photos, Valerie, and how I wish I lived in 
>>>>>> your neighborhood so I could bring my saddle and try your bikes. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When it all boils down, it’s this:
>>>>>> I’m looking to see what it’s like to ride a stripped-down roadish 
>>>>>> Rivendell and see how that affects my performance on group rides. 
>>>>>> Rivendell 
>>>>>> offers 2 (not counting the hard-to-obtain Roadeo) road bikes in their 
>>>>>> lineup and I’m trying to differentiate between them and see which one is 
>>>>>> better for me. I hope they can make that clear in their product 
>>>>>> description 
>>>>>> when the time comes for them to launch the CHG. Meanwhile, we get to 
>>>>>> chat 
>>>>>> and speculate and evaluate here and it is loads of fun! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, thank you again to everyone for sharing your wisdom with me. 
>>>>>> Keep it coming!
>>>>>> L
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 9, 2024, at 9:46 PM, P W <philip....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, as soon as I hit send, I thought: “It’s a Riv, I bet the 
>>>>>> tire clearance is actually massive!”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 😂
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For how a go-fast Riv roadie could and should look, what better 
>>>>>> source of inspiration than Will’s:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See also:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <441164476_1599207264208847_1445036392027071003_n.jpg>
>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==> 
>>>>>> Calling in Sick Magazine on Instagram: "#bikecheck #willkeating 
>>>>>> @rivbike" 
>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==>
>>>>>> Watch and share reels with friends 
>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==>
>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P. W.
>>>>>> ~
>>>>>> (917) 514-2207
>>>>>> ~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 9, 2024, at 6:06 PM, Valerie Yates <vya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Also Philip - I have 700x50 tires on my Gallop, so it is not just for 
>>>>>> skinny tires. But all the rest fits with my impression.  
>>>>>>
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