I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was lucky to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a surprise midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet their expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :) Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to your hella colorful collection -Brent in chicago On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > This is SO fun. > > Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your > answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you > were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope we > get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the > Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated > model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for. > That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a great > choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the used > market? So far there have been none to be found… > L > > On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: > >> Me either! >> >> I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure! >> >> All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom currently >> on offer at a very reasonable price… >> >> P. W. >> ~ >> (917) 514-2207 >> ~ >> >> >> >> >> On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely >> irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing in >> that picture says go-fast club rides to me. >> >> >> >> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels, >>> compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike, >>> without the swoopy TT, currently at Riv: >>> >>> [image: IMG_6222] >>> >>> >>> P. W. >>> ~ >>> (917) 514-2207 >>> ~ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 10, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Jason Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three shown >>> in that order makes it look like the Roadeo morphs into a Hillibike and the >>> CHG is the intermediate stage, which is both funny and also indicative of >>> its purpose and ride quality, which I'm sure lands squarely in between >>> also! >>> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:15 PM Valerie Yates <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I've made an album with pics of my Roadeo, CHG, and Susie. Link to album >>>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/8eFj66p3qGijaC7t5>. The album includes a >>>> poor quality picture of the Gallop with the albastache bars that were on >>>> it >>>> when it arrived. >>>> >>>> Leah - the drop from Will's saddle to bars was an intentional choice. >>>> He chose a smaller frame with a raised up saddle to achieve a racier >>>> position. My bars on the Roadeo are set fairly level with my saddle. With >>>> drop-bar bikes, I tend to choose the frame with the minimum necessary >>>> stand-over clearance to ensure I can have level bars without having to >>>> raise them up high in a way that looks funky to me. I am not a >>>> weight-weenie but perhaps worth mentioning that the Roadeo as shown with >>>> bags but minus pump is 25 lbs and 11 ounces. The Gallop, minus lock and >>>> pump, is 34 pounds. Some of the difference is my dynamo hub, lights, and >>>> and racks. I'd guess 5-6 pounds is the difference without those >>>> accessories. >>>> >>>> Here is a collage for anyone who doesn't want to follow the link. I >>>> measured from front to rear drop-out and both the Roadeo and Gallop are >>>> 175. Looking at where the vertical segment of the garage door intersects >>>> the frame is pretty interesting. I don't really understand how all the >>>> extra space in the Gallop frame is achieved. Riv magic. >>>> >>> <Bike Collage.jpg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 8:15:30 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chiming in to say that this particular conversation comes at a great >>>>> time for me! I was planning to buy the Roadini, but this whole thread is >>>>> causing me to second guess. Leah, I'm planning to go to Riv in June >>>>> sometime and ask them all the questions about Roadini vs CHG. I'll make >>>>> sure to post what I learn. Until then, fun to speculate and read others >>>>> thoughts. >>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:54:37 AM UTC-6 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Valerie, I am also looking forward to your photos. I love show and >>>>>> tell! Thank you for your posts which I have started looking forward to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:32:29 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the big thing is that the gallop was designed for sweptback >>>>>>> bars and the roadini was not. In the world of Rivendell I am not sure >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> that equates to because most of their bikes can go either way and Grant >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> said that is true here too if you use a short stem. That statement >>>>>>> tells me >>>>>>> that the effective top tube on the gallop will be longer and most >>>>>>> likely >>>>>>> the wheelbase will be as well. If I can figure out how to measure those >>>>>>> things well I can give it a shot on my prototype and assuming the end >>>>>>> geometry is pretty similar to the production model we would get some >>>>>>> info. >>>>>>> Points for the gallop would be 1. Just different enough to get you a go >>>>>>> fast bike that still turns some heads 2. Geometry providing a better >>>>>>> fit >>>>>>> for an alternative cockpit if you don't like the drops. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Downside to the gallop is that the lower top tube allows a larger >>>>>>> size to fit better. I think its a good guess that Rivendell would steer >>>>>>> people that way and you likely would be very comfy on a size similar to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> larger Platy but I think doing that might make drops a bit harder to be >>>>>>> comfortable on. It would likely need a very very short stem. I guess >>>>>>> thats >>>>>>> not a downside it just makes the sizing discussion a little more open >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the gallop than the Roadini. But wiht the new 50cm platy you will be >>>>>>> packed >>>>>>> with all sorts of sizing and comfort information to rely on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Otherwise weight and tubing specs are probably pretty similar >>>>>>> between the two >>>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 8:03:31 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Woah, that’s a pretty steep drop from Will’s saddle to bars for me! >>>>>>>> But it’s pretty. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I look forward to your photos, Valerie, and how I wish I lived in >>>>>>>> your neighborhood so I could bring my saddle and try your bikes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When it all boils down, it’s this: >>>>>>>> I’m looking to see what it’s like to ride a stripped-down roadish >>>>>>>> Rivendell and see how that affects my performance on group rides. >>>>>>>> Rivendell >>>>>>>> offers 2 (not counting the hard-to-obtain Roadeo) road bikes in their >>>>>>>> lineup and I’m trying to differentiate between them and see which one >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> better for me. I hope they can make that clear in their product >>>>>>>> description >>>>>>>> when the time comes for them to launch the CHG. Meanwhile, we get to >>>>>>>> chat >>>>>>>> and speculate and evaluate here and it is loads of fun! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, thank you again to everyone for sharing your wisdom with me. >>>>>>>> Keep it coming! >>>>>>>> L >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 9, 2024, at 9:46 PM, P W <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You know, as soon as I hit send, I thought: “It’s a Riv, I bet the >>>>>>>> tire clearance is actually massive!” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 😂 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For how a go-fast Riv roadie could and should look, what better >>>>>>>> source of inspiration than Will’s: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <image0.jpeg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> See also: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <441164476_1599207264208847_1445036392027071003_n.jpg> >>>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==> >>>>>>>> Calling in Sick Magazine on Instagram: "#bikecheck #willkeating >>>>>>>> @rivbike" >>>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==> >>>>>>>> Watch and share reels with friends >>>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==> >>>>>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cHN2vyLoM/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P. W. >>>>>>>> ~ >>>>>>>> (917) 514-2207 >>>>>>>> ~ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 9, 2024, at 6:06 PM, Valerie Yates <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also Philip - I have 700x50 tires on my Gallop, so it is not just >>>>>>>> for skinny tires. 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