On Sunday, May 18, 2025 at 4:35:13 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

Friends, 

My Brooks B67S saddle…the wide saddle with springs…was squeaking so 
distractingly much  that I decided to try the B17S (no springs), and OUCH. 
So stiff! 

I had a B17 many years ago and don’t remember it being so stiff, but I rode 
lots more then and perhaps I broke it in quickly. My previous B17 was on my 
Atlantis, which is set up with mustache handlebars, so I wasn’t riding 
entirely upright…the new saddle is on my Platypus with Choco handlebars, so 
I sit more upright on it, and I have a feeling my sitbones hit differently 
on the Platy.


This is a rabbit hole down which you can go on the 'net :-) As others have 
mentioned,  there are different versions B17, with different types of 
leather, some of which start out a bit more forgiving than others. My 
experience with the B17s sold by Rivendell over the years varied, most of 
them being pretty comfy from the start, one of them (the gray with titanium 
rails) taking longer. You note that your position is different, more 
upright. Lots of people find they need to tilt a B17 nose-up a fair amount 
for comfort with an upright position. The B17 is traditionally aimed at a 
more touring-oriented position, leaning forward a bit but not fully down in 
racing territory. For me, that translates to about a 45 degree angle 
between my back and the ground. I definitely found that if I use a B17 with 
an upright position, I have to tilt the nose up to properly position my 
rear end. 

As for softening the leather, being too aggressive with that will pretty 
dramatically shorten the life of the saddle. Of course, a long-lived saddle 
that's misery sounds like a terrible thing, so lots of people are willing 
to made a trade-off. I found that a few 2-hour rides on hot days made a lot 
of progress for me.

I also found, though, that for the position I mostly ride in, the B17 shape 
and dimensions isn't ideal for me. 

For an upright position, I'd be tempted to try the B67S again, and put a 
little medium-weight oil in the springs. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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