"The issue I have with ROADEO is no DT lever bosses." This is an incorrect statement. The Roadeo is/was built to order, and when one ordered a Roadeo, they specified a small number of things, including whether or not they wanted down tube shifter bosses. My Roadeo has down tube shifter bosses, because I ordered it that way. Some Roadeo frames out there in second-hand-land don't have down tube shifter bosses because the human being who originally ordered it didn't choose down tube shifter bosses. When there has been a floor model Roadeo at Riv HQ, it has usually been spec'd by Mark Abele, who tends to like brifters and the minimalist setup of an inline barrel adjuster and slotted stops on the down tube.
One time when I walked in, several years back, Will told me that the staff was split 50/50 on whether to do down tube shifter bosses on the new forthcoming Leo Roadini model, and Will asked me to cast the tie-breaking vote. I voted for down tube shifter bosses, and the Roadini still has them. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 11:22:05 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote: > I hopped on the RAM @ 2004, still aboard. > > Joe Bell applied his magic a few years ago to clean up a small spot of > corrosion in a.weird place under one of the seat-stays. I'm crazy about > that kind of stuff, just can't have it. RAM replaced a Waterford RSE22 > (road sport extended) which, for some reason, didn't work for me—and then > WF retired RSE shortly thereafter. > > I suspect ROADEO is a bit lighter but RAM works well for me...certainly as > entertaining as my custom, skinny-tube EBISU which is quite spritely for > want of a better word. The issue I have with ROADEO is no DT lever bosses. > The complexity of brifters annoys me so I'm married to DA downtube > levers...and I enjoy the shifting. Right hand for both derailers—the way > Eddy used to do it 🙃 > > YMMV, of course, but some of our eccentricities remind me of arguing about > those angels on the head of a pin. > > Jock (who's writing rather than pedaling on account of too wet out there > just now) > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 9:54 AM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That’s very interesting; thanks. At least, it reassures me that my “no >> science used here” seat-of-pants estimation of ride differences isn’t pure >> fantasy. At any rate, the Roadeo seems to have hit the perfect mix of >> stability and agility to suite my very particular taste. >> >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 10:40 AM Pat McCullar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I've never ridden a Roadeo or a Rambouillet, but I do have a custom that >>> Rivendell refers to as a "semi-relaxed road bike". After a visit to >>> Rivendell earlier this year, and a discussion with Grant, I came away with >>> the following understanding of the difference of these bikes: the Roadeo is >>> more nimble than my custom; my custom is more nimble than a Rambouillet. >>> Grant referred to head-tube shallowness (I think), not nimbleness, but I >>> think the one affects the other. I think that would be consistent with your >>> experience with your new Roadeo and memories of your Rambouillet. >>> >>> I did ride a Roadini while I as there, but not enough to appreciate any >>> difference from my custom. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 9:15:21 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, a stable of at least 4, no make that 5, heck, let’s say 6 >>>> sparkling Roadeos each with different builds and colors (19 lb gofast, 17 >>>> lb fixed gear gofast, errand/commuting multispeed IGH fixed with racks, >>>> fenders, lights, ditto IGH freewheel (AM hub) errand, dirt road model >>>> modified with new fork to take 48s, oh, the possibilities are endless! >>>> >>>> I’m very grateful to have the one. I do wish the components weren’t >>>> anodized black that scuffs and scratches so easily, but I can change that >>>> in the future. Meanwhile I have been very pleasantly surprised at how >>>> much >>>> I like it as-is. I just fear that it might become my fave, and then what >>>> will I say to the 1999? Even worse, riding with multiple derailleur gears >>>> may become my new normal instead of riding fixed gear. >>>> >>>> Immediate changes: try a nice pair of original Dura Ace single pivots, >>>> the model with the very nice barrel-shaped qr, with salmon pads of course, >>>> in place of the lackluster Tektros with OEM pads; switch braking to right >>>> lever/front brake; replace the 11-32 with a 14-32 to get rid of annoying >>>> mid-range 2-tooth gaps. >>>> >>>> Will keep reporting … and reporting, and reporting, and reporting, and >>>> repor... >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 5:55 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do like me, get a couple more of the same heavenly bike, make >>>>> different iterations, ride off into sunset. Bonus if you clap rainbow-y >>>>> colored flashy parts on there. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, October 24, 2025 at 8:09:42 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> and the arms feel more relaxed, with a more natural bend when on the >>>>>> *hoods* ... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 6:06 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> … s; it all feels much better, meaning that the torso is more >>>>>>> naturally “suspended between saddle and bar and the arms feel more >>>>>>> relaxed, >>>>>>> with a more natural bend when on the hooks ... >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5ae54e4b-56bf-4baf-87f9-b90cb6af5642n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5ae54e4b-56bf-4baf-87f9-b90cb6af5642n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Patrick Moore >>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>>> services >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>> >>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>> >>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/67822d12-287b-476c-bfff-b123fb25694fn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/67822d12-287b-476c-bfff-b123fb25694fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >> services >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >> >> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >> >> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfguog9-7G1AP3r6sRkBRpsFgssSw5FfqpHMd6VSpXUcDyg%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfguog9-7G1AP3r6sRkBRpsFgssSw5FfqpHMd6VSpXUcDyg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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