Well, that proves it 💥 & that’s just how I feel about it. Delightful improbability and you’re one of the lucky ones.
Because they’re all nimble. Sort of blows my mind. Jock On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 3:28 PM 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch < [email protected]> wrote: > From my quiver and perspective, my Legolas (arguably a gravel Roadeo) is > more nimble than my 2001 custom, which is more nimble than my Quickbeam. > > Joe in GJT > > On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 12:58:51 PM UTC-6 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Just found this, with regard to DT bosses: >> >> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/jGVJ1Xk__e0/m/dEk9Mg2jXb4J >> >> On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 11:40:56 AM UTC-7 Pat McCullar wrote: >> >>> I have a vague (and possibly incorrect) recollection that the Rodeo was >>> *originally* only available without the downtube bosses, at least >>> partially because it allowed thinner walls for the downtube. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 11:35:32 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> "The issue I have with ROADEO is no DT lever bosses." >>>> >>>> This is an incorrect statement. The Roadeo is/was built to order, and >>>> when one ordered a Roadeo, they specified a small number of things, >>>> including whether or not they wanted down tube shifter bosses. My Roadeo >>>> has down tube shifter bosses, because I ordered it that way. Some Roadeo >>>> frames out there in second-hand-land don't have down tube shifter bosses >>>> because the human being who originally ordered it didn't choose down tube >>>> shifter bosses. When there has been a floor model Roadeo at Riv HQ, it has >>>> usually been spec'd by Mark Abele, who tends to like brifters and the >>>> minimalist setup of an inline barrel adjuster and slotted stops on the down >>>> tube. >>>> >>>> One time when I walked in, several years back, Will told me that the >>>> staff was split 50/50 on whether to do down tube shifter bosses on the new >>>> forthcoming Leo Roadini model, and Will asked me to cast the tie-breaking >>>> vote. I voted for down tube shifter bosses, and the Roadini still has >>>> them. >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 11:22:05 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote: >>>> >>>>> I hopped on the RAM @ 2004, still aboard. >>>>> >>>>> Joe Bell applied his magic a few years ago to clean up a small spot of >>>>> corrosion in a.weird place under one of the seat-stays. I'm crazy about >>>>> that kind of stuff, just can't have it. RAM replaced a Waterford RSE22 >>>>> (road sport extended) which, for some reason, didn't work for me—and then >>>>> WF retired RSE shortly thereafter. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect ROADEO is a bit lighter but RAM works well for >>>>> me...certainly as entertaining as my custom, skinny-tube EBISU which is >>>>> quite spritely for want of a better word. The issue I have with ROADEO is >>>>> no DT lever bosses. The complexity of brifters annoys me so I'm married to >>>>> DA downtube levers...and I enjoy the shifting. Right hand for both >>>>> derailers—the way Eddy used to do it 🙃 >>>>> >>>>> YMMV, of course, but some of our eccentricities remind me of arguing >>>>> about those angels on the head of a pin. >>>>> >>>>> Jock (who's writing rather than pedaling on account of too wet out >>>>> there just now) >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 9:54 AM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That’s very interesting; thanks. At least, it reassures me that my >>>>>> “no science used here” seat-of-pants estimation of ride differences isn’t >>>>>> pure fantasy. At any rate, the Roadeo seems to have hit the perfect mix >>>>>> of >>>>>> stability and agility to suite my very particular taste. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 10:40 AM Pat McCullar <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've never ridden a Roadeo or a Rambouillet, but I do have a custom >>>>>>> that Rivendell refers to as a "semi-relaxed road bike". After a visit to >>>>>>> Rivendell earlier this year, and a discussion with Grant, I came away >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the following understanding of the difference of these bikes: the >>>>>>> Roadeo is >>>>>>> more nimble than my custom; my custom is more nimble than a Rambouillet. >>>>>>> Grant referred to head-tube shallowness (I think), not nimbleness, but I >>>>>>> think the one affects the other. I think that would be consistent with >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> experience with your new Roadeo and memories of your Rambouillet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did ride a Roadini while I as there, but not enough to appreciate >>>>>>> any difference from my custom. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 9:15:21 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, a stable of at least 4, no make that 5, heck, let’s say 6 >>>>>>>> sparkling Roadeos each with different builds and colors (19 lb gofast, >>>>>>>> 17 >>>>>>>> lb fixed gear gofast, errand/commuting multispeed IGH fixed with racks, >>>>>>>> fenders, lights, ditto IGH freewheel (AM hub) errand, dirt road model >>>>>>>> modified with new fork to take 48s, oh, the possibilities are endless! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m very grateful to have the one. I do wish the components weren’t >>>>>>>> anodized black that scuffs and scratches so easily, but I can change >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> in the future. Meanwhile I have been very pleasantly surprised at how >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> I like it as-is. I just fear that it might become my fave, and then >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> will I say to the 1999? Even worse, riding with multiple derailleur >>>>>>>> gears >>>>>>>> may become my new normal instead of riding fixed gear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Immediate changes: try a nice pair of original Dura Ace single >>>>>>>> pivots, the model with the very nice barrel-shaped qr, with salmon >>>>>>>> pads of >>>>>>>> course, in place of the lackluster Tektros with OEM pads; switch >>>>>>>> braking to >>>>>>>> right lever/front brake; replace the 11-32 with a 14-32 to get rid of >>>>>>>> annoying mid-range 2-tooth gaps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will keep reporting … and reporting, and reporting, and reporting, >>>>>>>> and repor... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 5:55 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do like me, get a couple more of the same heavenly bike, make >>>>>>>>> different iterations, ride off into sunset. 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