I gotta get me one of those 58cm 650B Hilsens. Saving up the pennies. On Aug 16, 9:40 am, grant <[email protected]> wrote: > We stock ten 650B tires, which -- does anybody stock more? As many? > > At least four bike models have 650B wheels. We stopped making biggies > in 650, because the head tubes get long, but even up to the 62 Saluki, > that was still OK. Right now we have ten 58cm AHH frames for 650B > wheels---something I ordered waytheheck back there because I knew > they'd be the last of the Toyobuilts, and they're kind of arguably the > a-fartsiest frames we sell, last-gaspers in the ultra handwork > department, super underpriced at $2K/frame and fork, and as good a > riding bike as any I've ridden ever, and yet....they sit. We don't > spend money promoting them, true, but that's also true of most > everything else, too. They're competing with 700c bikes, and most > people get the 700s, justafact. I'm going to reserve one of these for > myself even though I already have a 58/650 AHH. Anybody with a PBH of > 84.5 to 86 who wants a Last Gasper (all stops pulled out), they're > here, and they'll never go down in price. > > I'm getting off-track here, but the point is, the 650B bikes don't > seem to be able to compete against the 700s. > > We have frames up to 71cm (AHH). And the 64Sam and 62 HP and 64 Bomba > have 6-deg upslopes which effectively give them the front ends of much > taller bikes. We can fit 6-8ers easily. > > Now that we're the modern day double-top-tubing kings of the world, we > could make 650B bikes in even taller sizes, but there has to be a > reason, and we have NO reason to believe they'd sell, based on what > we're seeing with the other bikes. I'm still of a mind that small > wheels go with small bikes, big wheels with big bikes, and the medium > 650B wheel with midsizers....and from a frame design perspective it's > an easy case to make. Still, we're not giving up on them. A 52 Sam, > for instance, can NOT be done well in 700C, and there's no compelling > reason to make a 65cm 650B bike. Triple top tube? That might work! > > G
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