Larry: Here's the plan:
First in a nutshell: We ride from Cumberland, MD to Confluence, PA on Day 1 (Sat, Apr 21) which is 62 miles, then Confluence to Connellsville PA on Day 2 (Sun Apr 22) which is only 28 miles, where we get shuttled back to Cumberland (people, bikes and gear). The distance on Day 1 is 62 miles, the first 25 of which are technically uphill, although since this is a former railroad route, the pitch is NOT steep, just gradual, approx 72 feet climb per mile, which ain't too bad. Some may opt to tackle this climb in 2 stages, by arriving in Cumberland earlier on Friday, parking, and departing for Frostburg 16 miles up the trail, where they will spend Friday night. Saturday morning we'll assemble in Cumberland for an early start. I will likely arrive and stay in Cumberland on Friday night, but it's up to you where you stay, as long as you are in Cumberland for the start, (exact time TBD). At some point we'll need to rendezvous with the Frostburg group, depending on where they prefer to meet us; either in Frostburg, or perhaps further up the trail (say at the top of the Divide) if they would prefer to get an early start and ride the final 10 miles of incline at their own pace up to the Divide; either way we will rendezvous. From the top of the Divide we will continue on (nearly 40 miles of decline) to Confluence, where we'll check in to wherever we're staying, then perhaps meet in Confluence for a group dinner. Sunday morning we'll assemble in Confluence for our first leg of the ride to Ohiopyle, where folks can either: take a Fallingwater Tour (approx $25 with bus), hang around Ohiopyle, or continue on to Connellsville. After the tour, we'll continue to Connellsville where our shuttle (back to Cumberland) will meet us. You should expect to be back in Cumberland by approx 5:30 Sunday. I hope that helps. More info contained in this thread, including links to lodging options and parking info. Peace, BB - Depart Cumberland, MD Saturday morning (April 21), ride 62 miles to Confluence PA, where we'll spend the night. - Depart Confluence, PA Sunday morning, ride On Feb 8, 10:24 am, Larry Powers <[email protected]> wrote: > Could you please post the itinerary for this tirp? I have tried to piece it > together by looking through the messages but have not been able to do so. I > have been planning a DC to Pittsburgh trip on the trails and if I could plan > it to overlap with the rally that would be fun. > > Thanks. > > Larry Powers > > Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:05:59 -0800 > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > > The Paddlers Lane Guest House has 3 queen beds, 8 singles, a sofabed > > and a sofa, so it will (arguably) sleep 12 comfortably, or 13 with one > > on the sofa. Below is the list of the first 13 responses (Rusty, I'm > > trying to keep your group together, I'm happy to take the couch)... we > > can shift people around if they'd rather move to a B&B, but in general > > any additional folks will need to reserve with one of the several > > other B&Bs and Inns available in Confluence. Apologies, you should > > have no problem finding a suitable place. If you have any unconfirmed > > friends joining us later and you need to opt out for a different B&B, > > please let me know. And there's camping available at Paddlers Lane > > for about $7 per person. > > > Riv Rallyer Paddler's Lane Shuttle > > Falling Water Tour Deposit Needed > > > Bob Birmingham Y > > Y Y $75 > > Tom Allingham Y > > Y Y $75 > > Hank Allingham Y > > Y Y $75 > > Sam Allingham Y > > Y Y $75 > > Steve Palincsar Y > > Y Y $75 > > Norm Rosenbloom Y > > Y Y $75 > > Bruce Oppenheim Y > > Y Y $75 > > John Philip Y > > N Y $55 > > Andy Philip Y > > Y Y $75 > > Tom Nezovich Y > > N Y $55 > > Rusty Click Y > > N N $75 > > Rusty Guest 1 Y > > N N $50 > > Rusty Guest 2 Y > > N N $75 > > Mark Irwin N > > Y Y $25 > > > Total Confirmed 13 > > 9 11 > > > Any others who care to join us, please confirm when you can. > > > Would you kindly drop me a check in the mail at your convenience. > > Thanks! > > > Bobby Birmingham > > 94 Matthews Farm Road > > Belle Mead, NJ 08502 > > > Peace, > > BB > > > On Feb 7, 11:58 am, Montclair BobbyB <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Thanks, Marc. > > > > We're just about at capacity at the Paddler's Lane, but there are > > > other B&Bs in town that hopefully will be suitable (see my previous > > > post with links). > > > Something else to consider: CAMPING (by the way) IS an option at > > > Paddler's Lane, if any of you are so inclined. It's inexpensive, they > > > have open lawn to pitch tents, use of the house facilities, and > > > they've built a brand new bath house that they are very proud of (with > > > nice showers and toilets). If the weather cooperates, this could be a > > > nice option. > > > > We also are approaching capacity on our first shuttle van (we're at > > > 10, with a capacity of 12). Some riders won't need shuttle service, > > > and instead will be doing the extended out-and-back. But before I > > > commit to a second van, we will need to have at least another 6 riders > > > (for it to be cost-effective). We'll find a way to accommodate > > > everyones' lodging and shuttle needs. > > > > I've also booked a van for the Falling Water Tour. That will last > > > approx 2 hours. Those who prefer to opt out of the tour, of course > > > you'll be free to spend the time in Ohiopyle (or to just continue on > > > to Connellsville). > > > > So if you're considering joining us forRivRallyEast, PLEASE try to > > > firm up your plans and let me know ASAP. > > > > For those who have committed so far, thank you; I'll send out the list > > > of names that I have (this evening), and I will be asking for a > > > deposit. Stay tuned. > > > > THANKS!!!! > > > > BB > > > > On Feb 6, 10:03 pm, Marc Irwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I intend to be there and will stay with the masses at the Paddlers. I > > > > have no preferencefor the starting point. You know the terrain better > > > > than I. I have no preference about the falling waters ( I've seen a > > > > lot of FLW, but one more won't hurt either.). Let me know the what > > > > when and where of the deposits and I'll make the rest of my plans. > > > > > Marc > > > > > On Jan 26, 10:27 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > - As soon as possible, a verbal commitment to attend (and I may > > > > > request a deposit for the shuttle and lodging (if I book the Paddlers > > > > > Guest House). Sam Allingham and Tom Allingham are in; one additional > > > > > rider is a distinct possibility. > > > > > > - A lodging preference, either: A. I would like to stay with the > > > > > masses in the Paddlers Lane Guest House (if avail), and although I am > > > > > guaranteed a bed, it may not be a queen bed, we'll draw straws... or > > > > > B. I would like to make my own lodging arrangements. Option A > > > > > preferable for us. > > > > > > - A starting point; Cumberland, MD (62 miles to Confluence on Day 1, > > > > > approx the first 25 miles are gradual uphill) vs Frostburg, MD We'd > > > > > prefer Cumberland. > > > > > (47 miles to Confluence on Day 1, approx the first 10 miles are > > > > > gradual uphill). And for those preferring Frostburg, do you need to > > > > > A. Park in Frostburg or B. Park in Cumberland and ride to Frostburg > > > > > ahead of theRally. > > > > > > - A (Yes/No) vote on a Fallingwater tour - Assuming we shuttle via > > > > > bus, and take a Noon tour... Figure 1-2 hours total, and will cost > > > > > approx $20 per person. We'd love to do the Fallingwater side trip > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Montclair > > > > > BobbyB > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:58 PM > > > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re:RivRallyEast 2012 > > > > > > Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me > > > > > with what I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shuttle > > > > > approx 25 passengers plus bikes and gear). They have a large rack on > > > > > top of one van, and a box trailer for the balance of the bikes and > > > > > gear. The price quote is $415, which translates to roughly $17 per > > > > > person (if we have 25), or $28 per person (if we have 15), etc... you > > > > > get the idea. We pay for the vans and trailer, regardless of the > > > > > number of people. Either way I think that's a very reasonable price > > > > > (compared to other quotes for large buses). I would like to propose > > > > > leaving our cars in Cumberland (or optionally Frostburg) and getting > > > > > shuttled back on Sunday (I will explain why in a moment). > > > > > > WV is located in Ohiopyle. PA just off the trail. As we pass through > > > > > Ohiopyle on Sunday (Apr 22), we CAN opt to use WV to shuttle us up to > > > > > Fallingwater, IF folks would like to take a tour. The cost would be > > > > > $25 per van (from WV HQ), which adds only $2 per person. I have sent > > > > > in an inquiry to the Fallingwater people requesting a group tour rate > > > > > (normally $22 individually). We'll see if they can accommodate a > > > > > group of 25 for the Noon time slot; THEN it's up to us to decide > > > > > whether we'd like to include this tour or not. Another option would > > > > > be to have a nice, relaxing lunch in Ohiopyle. I'd like your > > > > > thoughts, please. > > > > > > Next up will be a decision on lodging and shuttle options. The WV > > > > > folks made a pretty good case for leaving our cars in Cumberland MD, > > > > > citing better parking options, and actually by leaving cars in > > > > > Cumberland, another advantage would be to allow late arrivals on > > > > > Friday night (or even Saturday morning), by not having to pre-shuttle > > > > > at a predetermined time. Moreover, we can check in with WV at > > > > > Ohiopyle on Sunday, and provide a pretty accurate time estimate for > > > > > when we'll need pickup in Connellsville, which is 17 miles down > > > > > river. The disadvantage to this is that it tacks on additional time > > > > > and distance for our friends coming from the North. But Sunday will > > > > > be a shorter day, and I'd anticipate arriving in Connellsville around > > > > > 3, putting us back in Cumberland by around 5 PM. > > > > > > For those who would prefer to start in Frostburg (which is 16 miles > > > > > up trail from Cumberland), this would give you a later start on Sat > > > > > AM (while you wait for therallyto catch up) and it would spare you 16 > > > > > miles of additional climbing (albeit at a gradual 1% grade or less). > > > > > I'm sure we can convince the WV crew to drop people in Frostburg on > > > > > the way back into Cumberland on Sunday, but they may tack on a small > > > > > surcharge. Another option for those wishing to start from Frostburg > > > > > on Saturday would be to arrive in Cumberland during the day on > > > > > Friday, leaving your car in Cumberland, then riding 16 miles to > > > > > Frostburg "up the climb" to a hotel in Frostburg... then you can > > > > > "sleep in" on Sat while the rest of us huff and puff our way up to > > > > > meet you. > > > > > > Finally, for lodging options in Confluence, I would strongly > > > > > recommend reserving the Paddlers Lane Retreat guest house, which can > > > > > accommodate at least a dozen, and costs about $425 a night (which is > > > > > a bargain if we fill it). Here's a link to their site > > > > > -http://www.paddlerslane.com/id9.html. > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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