>From the Master (Sheldon Brown): Everything you need to know about chain wear, 
>skipping, etc.:

http://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

--Eric N

On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Michael Hechmer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not familiar with that derailler.   Make sure the derailler is only a 
> couple of mm above the big ring.  Some deraillers, including the popular 105, 
> have such a long cage that they cannot be lowered down to a 46 ring without 
> hitting the chain stay.  I use the Campy, which has a pretty short cage and 
> allows me to go right down to my 44 big ring.  Also, when the chain is on the 
> big ring and small cog the outside of the derailler should be about 5 mm from 
> the chain.  Ditto on the inside.  With a triple, I always use a chain stop on 
> the inside.
> 
> "Slipping under load?"  do you mean on the rings?  That suggest worn teeth.  
> Check for teeth that have a hook in their profile.  If you mean on the cogs, 
> make sure the D rings are tight.  I use Silver Shifters and find the D rings 
> stay pretty tight on the DT shifters but I regularly retighten the D rings on 
> my & my wife's BE shifters. After that you are probably experiencing a worn 
> chain or cog teeth.
> 
> michael
> 
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:05:41 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:
> I have thrown the chain off the outside ring (i.e. the chain goes too far 
> outside) and off the inside ring (i.e. it goes too far inside).  I have 
> fiddled with the limit screws and followed the riv install a derailer video, 
> by my eye things look right.
> 
> Setup questions: 
> 
> I have the Alpina FD
> 8 speed casette
> Sugino 46 36 24 crank
> 
> Joe - what do you mean by choosing the front ring by "conditions" - can you 
> elaborate?
> 
> I have tried shifting slowly/lightly and also more quickly, and have had the 
> same problems (chain throwing, slipping under load).  
> 
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:44:51 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:
> I noticed a discussion cropping up in the "New Chain Skipping" thread that I 
> thought it would be worthwhile to dedicate a thread to this, as I have been 
> thinking about it a bit - 
> 
> I am a relatively new bike rider, and change gears as it makes sense to me - 
> when i feel like i need more speed, i shift, when i feel like i am not going 
> to be able to get up the hill, i shift.  
> 
> But I never really learned the "right" way to do this.  I have learned a 
> little about friction shifting just from poking around (lightening up on the 
> cranks when I am about to shift, as an example) but haven't seen a dedicated 
> thread to this, nor have I found a good resource.  I know for many of you 
> this is intuitive basic stuff, but I never learned how to ride a bike from 
> anyone that actually knew what they are doing.
> 
> I generally stay in the middle ring on my front chainring (I have a triple) 
> and use all of the back gears until I need more, and then I shift to either 
> the big or small chainring.  I am cognizant of cross gearing, but am probably 
> guilty of doing it once in a while.
> 
> I have consistently had problems with chains slipping, throwing chains (both 
> off the big and granny rings) across multiple bikes, which leads me to 
> believe I am part of the problem.
> 
> So how do you ride to ensure that you are treating the bike the way it should 
> be treated?
> 
> 
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