Hey, Bicycling Magazine every so often is good for something. I kid, I kid.
On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:02:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > What may seem intuitive to me today came from reading exactly the way > you're doing now. It may be possible to teach oneself all the shifting > tricks strictly from riding and doing, but I prefer to ask someone who > already knows them. My front shifting approach was derived from a Bicycling > Magazine article witten 20 years ago by Ned Overend..teaching mountain bike > racing, of all things. It made sense; I tried it on the road; it worked. > > Joe Bernard > Vallejo, CA. > > On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:46:26 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: > >> Joe - >> >> Thank you for the response - perfect description, and also the exact >> opposite of what I have been doing. >> >> To some of you guys may just be intuitive or obvious, but it takes me a >> little bit to catch on to things. >> >> I will also tighten the silvers up again. It does seem like I have to * >> really* have them tight in order for them not to slip on the Sam. I had >> a Salsa Casseroll that had silvers which was not nearly as finnicky. >> >> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:09:35 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: >>> >>> Zack, I live in a hilly area so I use all three rings pretty often..this >>> may not apply to your terrain. Like you, I ride flattish roads in the >>> middle ring, but when approaching an incline I'll usually shift to the >>> small ring up front before "bottoming out" the gears in back. So my >>> "conditions" are granny-ring for up, middle-ring for flat, big-ring for >>> downhill. I'm using the front shifting to establish the parameters, then >>> fine-tuning with the rear. >>> >>> Now here's where this helps with overshifts on the front: Let's say >>> you're in the middle ring, in the highest gear in back. Look down and what >>> do you see? The chain is angling to the right to get to the smallest rear >>> cog. Now you want to shift the front of the chain to the right, also, to >>> get your highest gear. You're more likely to throw the chain past the >>> chainring in this situation because the rest of the chain is veering that >>> way. But let's say you're only in the *middle *rear cogs, then decide >>> to shift the front . Less chance of "overthrow", because the chain started >>> out in more of a straight line front-to-back before the front shift. This >>> works the other direction, too. You're more likely to overshift the granny >>> if the chain is already all the way to the spokes in back. >>> >>> I'm sorry if that's not clear, feel free to keep asking questions. Btw, >>> my Rivendell Romulus came to me with a similar drivetrain, and overshifted >>> like the dickens when I first got it. It was a hard lesson.. >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> Vallejo, CA. >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:45:28 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: >>> >>>> FD was from Riv, I had them do the setup last year when I got the bike. >>>> >>>> It would surprise me if I had already worn out either a chainring or a >>>> casette, only rode the Sam for the end of the summer until now, less than >>>> 1,000 miles I would imagine. >>>> >>>> slipping on the cogs, not the rings. >>>> >>>> have read the sheldon article on chains, and also the one on chain >>>> slip. I tried some grease underneath the bb to see if that will help. >>>> >>>> was just more interested in riding tips than troubleshooting the >>>> derailer stuff, as I have seen lots of tips on the derailers but not much >>>> on the riding. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:44:51 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I noticed a discussion cropping up in the "New Chain Skipping" thread >>>>> that I thought it would be worthwhile to dedicate a thread to this, as I >>>>> have been thinking about it a bit - >>>>> >>>>> I am a relatively new bike rider, and change gears as it makes sense >>>>> to me - when i feel like i need more speed, i shift, when i feel like i >>>>> am >>>>> not going to be able to get up the hill, i shift. >>>>> >>>>> But I never really learned the "right" way to do this. I have learned >>>>> a little about friction shifting just from poking around (lightening up >>>>> on >>>>> the cranks when I am about to shift, as an example) but haven't seen a >>>>> dedicated thread to this, nor have I found a good resource. I know for >>>>> many of you this is intuitive basic stuff, but I never learned how to >>>>> ride >>>>> a bike from anyone that actually knew what they are doing. >>>>> >>>>> I generally stay in the middle ring on my front chainring (I have a >>>>> triple) and use all of the back gears until I need more, and then I shift >>>>> to either the big or small chainring. I am cognizant of cross gearing, >>>>> but >>>>> am probably guilty of doing it once in a while. >>>>> >>>>> I have consistently had problems with chains slipping, throwing chains >>>>> (both off the big and granny rings) across multiple bikes, which leads me >>>>> to believe I am part of the problem. >>>>> >>>>> So how do you ride to ensure that you are treating the bike the way it >>>>> should be treated? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nqH-91Hrx7EJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
