Joe - Thank you for the response - perfect description, and also the exact opposite of what I have been doing.
To some of you guys may just be intuitive or obvious, but it takes me a little bit to catch on to things. I will also tighten the silvers up again. It does seem like I have to * really* have them tight in order for them not to slip on the Sam. I had a Salsa Casseroll that had silvers which was not nearly as finnicky. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:09:35 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Zack, I live in a hilly area so I use all three rings pretty often..this > may not apply to your terrain. Like you, I ride flattish roads in the > middle ring, but when approaching an incline I'll usually shift to the > small ring up front before "bottoming out" the gears in back. So my > "conditions" are granny-ring for up, middle-ring for flat, big-ring for > downhill. I'm using the front shifting to establish the parameters, then > fine-tuning with the rear. > > Now here's where this helps with overshifts on the front: Let's say you're > in the middle ring, in the highest gear in back. Look down and what do you > see? The chain is angling to the right to get to the smallest rear cog. Now > you want to shift the front of the chain to the right, also, to get your > highest gear. You're more likely to throw the chain past the chainring in > this situation because the rest of the chain is veering that way. But let's > say you're only in the *middle *rear cogs, then decide to shift the front > . Less chance of "overthrow", because the chain started out in more of a > straight line front-to-back before the front shift. This works the other > direction, too. You're more likely to overshift the granny if the chain is > already all the way to the spokes in back. > > I'm sorry if that's not clear, feel free to keep asking questions. Btw, my > Rivendell Romulus came to me with a similar drivetrain, and overshifted > like the dickens when I first got it. It was a hard lesson.. > > Joe Bernard > Vallejo, CA. > > On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:45:28 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: > >> FD was from Riv, I had them do the setup last year when I got the bike. >> >> It would surprise me if I had already worn out either a chainring or a >> casette, only rode the Sam for the end of the summer until now, less than >> 1,000 miles I would imagine. >> >> slipping on the cogs, not the rings. >> >> have read the sheldon article on chains, and also the one on chain slip. >> I tried some grease underneath the bb to see if that will help. >> >> was just more interested in riding tips than troubleshooting the derailer >> stuff, as I have seen lots of tips on the derailers but not much on the >> riding. >> >> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:44:51 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: >>> >>> I noticed a discussion cropping up in the "New Chain Skipping" thread >>> that I thought it would be worthwhile to dedicate a thread to this, as I >>> have been thinking about it a bit - >>> >>> I am a relatively new bike rider, and change gears as it makes sense to >>> me - when i feel like i need more speed, i shift, when i feel like i am not >>> going to be able to get up the hill, i shift. >>> >>> But I never really learned the "right" way to do this. I have learned a >>> little about friction shifting just from poking around (lightening up on >>> the cranks when I am about to shift, as an example) but haven't seen a >>> dedicated thread to this, nor have I found a good resource. I know for >>> many of you this is intuitive basic stuff, but I never learned how to ride >>> a bike from anyone that actually knew what they are doing. >>> >>> I generally stay in the middle ring on my front chainring (I have a >>> triple) and use all of the back gears until I need more, and then I shift >>> to either the big or small chainring. I am cognizant of cross gearing, but >>> am probably guilty of doing it once in a while. >>> >>> I have consistently had problems with chains slipping, throwing chains >>> (both off the big and granny rings) across multiple bikes, which leads me >>> to believe I am part of the problem. >>> >>> So how do you ride to ensure that you are treating the bike the way it >>> should be treated? >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EsJMV6TlPHgJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
