What may seem intuitive to me today came from reading exactly the way you're doing now. It may be possible to teach oneself all the shifting tricks strictly from riding and doing, but I prefer to ask someone who already knows them. My front shifting approach was derived from a Bicycling Magazine article witten 20 years ago by Ned Overend..teaching mountain bike racing, of all things. It made sense; I tried it on the road; it worked. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA.
On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:46:26 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: > Joe - > > Thank you for the response - perfect description, and also the exact > opposite of what I have been doing. > > To some of you guys may just be intuitive or obvious, but it takes me a > little bit to catch on to things. > > I will also tighten the silvers up again. It does seem like I have to * > really* have them tight in order for them not to slip on the Sam. I had > a Salsa Casseroll that had silvers which was not nearly as finnicky. > > On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:09:35 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> Zack, I live in a hilly area so I use all three rings pretty often..this >> may not apply to your terrain. Like you, I ride flattish roads in the >> middle ring, but when approaching an incline I'll usually shift to the >> small ring up front before "bottoming out" the gears in back. So my >> "conditions" are granny-ring for up, middle-ring for flat, big-ring for >> downhill. I'm using the front shifting to establish the parameters, then >> fine-tuning with the rear. >> >> Now here's where this helps with overshifts on the front: Let's say >> you're in the middle ring, in the highest gear in back. Look down and what >> do you see? The chain is angling to the right to get to the smallest rear >> cog. Now you want to shift the front of the chain to the right, also, to >> get your highest gear. You're more likely to throw the chain past the >> chainring in this situation because the rest of the chain is veering that >> way. But let's say you're only in the *middle *rear cogs, then decide to >> shift the front . Less chance of "overthrow", because the chain started out >> in more of a straight line front-to-back before the front shift. This works >> the other direction, too. You're more likely to overshift the granny if the >> chain is already all the way to the spokes in back. >> >> I'm sorry if that's not clear, feel free to keep asking questions. Btw, >> my Rivendell Romulus came to me with a similar drivetrain, and overshifted >> like the dickens when I first got it. It was a hard lesson.. >> >> Joe Bernard >> Vallejo, CA. >> >> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:45:28 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: >> >>> FD was from Riv, I had them do the setup last year when I got the bike. >>> >>> It would surprise me if I had already worn out either a chainring or a >>> casette, only rode the Sam for the end of the summer until now, less than >>> 1,000 miles I would imagine. >>> >>> slipping on the cogs, not the rings. >>> >>> have read the sheldon article on chains, and also the one on chain slip. >>> I tried some grease underneath the bb to see if that will help. >>> >>> was just more interested in riding tips than troubleshooting the >>> derailer stuff, as I have seen lots of tips on the derailers but not much >>> on the riding. >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:44:51 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: >>>> >>>> I noticed a discussion cropping up in the "New Chain Skipping" thread >>>> that I thought it would be worthwhile to dedicate a thread to this, as I >>>> have been thinking about it a bit - >>>> >>>> I am a relatively new bike rider, and change gears as it makes sense to >>>> me - when i feel like i need more speed, i shift, when i feel like i am >>>> not >>>> going to be able to get up the hill, i shift. >>>> >>>> But I never really learned the "right" way to do this. I have learned >>>> a little about friction shifting just from poking around (lightening up on >>>> the cranks when I am about to shift, as an example) but haven't seen a >>>> dedicated thread to this, nor have I found a good resource. I know for >>>> many of you this is intuitive basic stuff, but I never learned how to ride >>>> a bike from anyone that actually knew what they are doing. >>>> >>>> I generally stay in the middle ring on my front chainring (I have a >>>> triple) and use all of the back gears until I need more, and then I shift >>>> to either the big or small chainring. I am cognizant of cross gearing, >>>> but >>>> am probably guilty of doing it once in a while. >>>> >>>> I have consistently had problems with chains slipping, throwing chains >>>> (both off the big and granny rings) across multiple bikes, which leads me >>>> to believe I am part of the problem. >>>> >>>> So how do you ride to ensure that you are treating the bike the way it >>>> should be treated? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C5xujb6uRMgJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
