One more anecdote that may or may not be relevant: when I once put 30+ lb on front lowriders on the Sam, the steering was so heavy I could literally hardly turn the bar --- I was not comfortable going faster than 15 mph and quickly abandoned the experiment. Very odd. Needless to say the Fargo is much less affected by similar front loads. Again, what gives?
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:19 AM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: > To expand this discussion: I found the Sam Hill very floppy going > uphill with a **rear** load; for my purpose and taste, intolerably so. > > However! > > The Fargo has huge trail (88? IIRC with the Big Apples, 72 or so with > the Kojaks), per jimg's trail calculator and the data I found on the > Fargo site for the Fargo I model, and it is much, much more tractable > in the same circumstances. > > OTOH, on fast downhill sweepers, and generally when taking curves, the > Sam HIll was rock solid and confident while the Fargo with either > wheelset is much less so. Note that the Fargo is not horrible, it just > does not feel -- to me -- like one of the benchmark bikes, of which I > put Rivs in first place in this respect. > > What gives? > > On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 21:17 -0800, charlie wrote: >>> Just rode my 'Sam' after obsessing over low trail forks for the last >>> few months. With my new drop bars and hobo bag I never noticed 'wheel >>> flop' or any tendency of the bike to wander as some might contend. >>> Just a nice pleasant ride uphill and down and straight line >>> performance was solid. >> >> You're not likely to notice wheel flop or a tendency to wander unless >> you are going extremely slowly up a very steep hill. Did you do that? >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > > ------------------------- > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > ------------------------- -- ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
