Ride-wise, I think the Sam is great. I wonder if the floppy feeling with 
certain loads is size based. I ride a 48cm, and generally keep a small 
saddlesack with a tool roll, spare tire, pump, some food, some extra 
clothing and possibly another water bottle in it. With that load, the only 
time I get the hint of flop in the front is when I am going very slowly up 
a rather steep hill. It isn't a lack of control or anything, just a feeling 
that I am going too slow and should probably speed up. 
 
I think the low trail thing is for people who really want to put a bunch of 
gear on the front of their bikes with no load on the rear. I just don't get 
it all that much. 
 
 

On Saturday, December 8, 2012 11:17:07 PM UTC-6, charlie wrote:

> Just rode my 'Sam' after obsessing over low trail forks for the last few 
> months. With my new drop bars and hobo bag I never noticed 'wheel flop' or 
> any tendency of the bike to wander as some might contend. Just a nice 
> pleasant ride uphill and down and straight line performance was solid. My 
> new Hillborne rides like a dream. If you are on the fence and are 
> considering a low trail fork or frame over your Rivendell like I was 
> starting to do......rest assured your Riv is a fine ride. I think we 
> cyclists are often fickle when it comes to bikes and the latest new gadget 
> or re-invented design. I guess I'm just saying (maybe for my own benefit) 
> try other brands if like but know that a Grant designed Rivendell is a 
> solidly designed frame. Go Grant !  

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