On Sun, 2012-12-09 at 13:33 -0800, charlie wrote:
> Yea Steve....I've had that happen on several bikes going up super
> steep hills (tendency to not hold a straight line) I'm not sure what a
> 12% grade is but some I've gone up are so steep I thought I would
> vapor lock and puke barely making it up. 

A reasonable way to find out is to plot a known hill on ridewithgps.com
and see what it says the grade is.  This is also a very useful way to
make cue sheets.  What we went through 20 years ago to create a cue
sheet, plotting it off a map and then driving the course, noting the
mileages for turns, is simply unthinkable today.


> At my age, weight and with sketchy knees I can still climb but must
> use MTB gearing 22x32x44 12-32 on the Surly and it gets me up anything
> I want to climb. 

Nothing at all wrong with getting gearing that works for you.  If only
modern MTB cranks weren't so godawful ugly...


> I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier and hills are a reality being
> both long and steep. My current bike (Surly) with a generator hub
> flickers at low speed so I'm probably going at walking speed......


> sometimes a little walking is a relief on long climbs and uses
> different muscles giving my behind a rest also. 
>  

That's true.  And clearly you're better off walking than hitting max
heart rate and "burning all your matches".   But the fact remains,
walking pushing a bike uphill can be a very unpleasant experience!

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