Michael wrote

"The description on the site led me to believe it is the fastest bike they 
make... However, it doesn't say what makes it that way"

OK, I'm still kind of guessing what it is you are after, so I'll ask and 
answer my own questions, and see if that helps at all.  I'm trying to 
answer what you are asking, but I'm afraid I'm coming off like a jerk.  
That's not my intent.  

Q1.  Take a TYPICAL Hilsen set up out there in the world and a TYPICAL 
Roadeo setup.  Which bike is faster?  
A1.  The Roadeo.  A typical Roadeo has lighter wheels, faster tires, and 
weighs ~5 lbs less.  A typical Roadeo build puts the rider in a more 
athletic position over the handlebars, more conducive to powerful riding. 

Q2.  Take the TYPICAL Roadeo build in Q1 and swap all his parts to a Hilsen 
in the same size.  Get the rider in exactly the same riding position.  How 
much slower will he be on his next club ride?
A2.  Not much slower at all.  I'd wager he would not be slower at all.  

Q3.  Is the Roadeo frameset lighter?  
A3.  A little, but not lighter enough to make you faster

Q4.  Is the Hilsen frameset stronger and stiffer?  
A4.  Yes, a little.  Some think stiffer is faster.  Some think flexier is 
faster.  Some think comfort all comes from frame flex.  Others say comfort 
is mostly from tires.  

It's my opinion that the Hilsen is a much more versatile bike, because of 
clearances and braze ons.  You can do any of several different kinds of 
builds on a Hilsen, which will influence how fast the bike is.  The Roadeo 
is less versatile and more specialized to one particular kind of build, 
which is a fast build.  

If you know you are going to do a fast build, and you'll never change it, 
get a Roadeo, you'll love it
If you know you are going to do a fast build, and a sport-tour build, and a 
commute build, and swap around between them at your whim, and you'd like 
one frame to enable them all, get a Hilsen, you'll love it. 



On Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:54:07 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> William,
> The description on the site led me to believe it is the fastest bike they 
> make, intended for fast club riding and not for 
> touring/commuting/utility/country/ doingsomething riding like their other 
> bikes are described. It even comes with the option for an aheadset type 
> headset.
> It says it is their answer to speedy modern CF bikes.
> So, to me, this sounds like it is the fastest/only race-like model in 
> current production.
>
> However, it doesn't say what makes it that way. 
> There is no discussion of geometry or power transfer, etc. 
> So I was wondering what about this steel bike that is so similar to the 
> Hilsen (minus brazeons) makes it intended for fast riding only.
>
>

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