I agree. Grant was among the first, and most visible proponents of real-world 
bikes. Arguably, some of Surly/Soma success is due to people reading what G was 
saying, and for whatever reason, buying a Riv-ish model from one of those 
brands instead of from RBW. Surly/Soma have talented and creative designers of 
their own, of course. Don't want to detract in any way from those companies' 
efforts and successes.

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