"... The look is nothing but pro" tells you all you need to know about Trek's 
philosophy of bike fit.  From a company that made great steel bikes to a 
company that sells expensive, profitable tech to poseurs...




On Apr 22, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Christopher Wiggins <tsots...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Make no mistake.  H2 is still "race" geometry.  If you play your cards right, 
> you can get the bars level with the saddle.  Most folks are going to be stuck 
> with (minimum) 2-3 cm of drop.
> 
> On Monday, April 22, 2013 11:55:49 AM UTC-4, ccanter wrote:
>> 
>> Similarly. Stumbled upon this at the Trek site a while back. Seems they have 
>> a new fit system.
>> H2 Fit
>> 
>> "H2 features a slightly higher head tube to put less strain on your back and 
>> neck. It's the right way to get most riders, including many of our Pro Team 
>> riders, in the right place. With no need for high-rise stems or spacer 
>> stacks, the look is nothing but pro."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
>> <thil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In the recent thread about SunTour's comeback, this quote was presented:
>>> 
>>> "Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business.  
>>> As he puts it “the market is too race-centric;  carbon fiber, electric 
>>> shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment 
>>> of cycling.  In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for 
>>> the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.”  For 
>>> these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components 
>>> which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday."
>>> 
>>> Of course, most of us Riv fans will note that this echoes Grant's published 
>>> opinions over the years, as well as the sales pitches of a few brands 
>>> who've tried, with varying success, to get into the Riv-ish segment of the 
>>> market. I "discovered" Riv almost 10 years ago because I wanted a certain 
>>> type of bike that didn't seem to exist at local shops. What I wanted was a 
>>> touring bike, and the Atlantis I bought filled that desire. Had I been able 
>>> to find a Trek 520 locally, or if the LHT existed back then, my story may 
>>> have taken some different turns. But it was certainly true back then that 
>>> any readily available higher quality bike was going to be some kind of 
>>> impractical skinny tire road bike. Not my style.
>>> 
>>> But things have changed drastically. Sure, many of us are baffled by 
>>> electronic shifting and seemingly delicate CF and 11-sp cassettes that have 
>>> become available. But at the same time, a HUGE variety of touring and 
>>> "adventure" bikes, parts, and accessories have become not only available, 
>>> but mainstream. So while I wish Junzo and SunTour success, I thought his 
>>> rationale seemed hollow, or at least 5-10 years too late.
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