I think Grant was the principal moving force behind the
steel/quality/comfortable road bike that is pretty common today. Perhaps he
was just leading at the crest of an already existing wave, but as someone
who bought an XO-1 in 1993 ('92 model) and followed Bridgestone and then
Rivendell from that point, I know the so-to-speak desert that existed until
the mid 2000s.

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:37 PM, jpp <paste...@notes.udayton.edu> wrote:

> I dont think Grant is given his credit on this issue.  Many large
> manufactures (trek, etc...) offer nice city bikes with plenty of rack
> mounts.  Plus just look at all the bike at NAHBS, there is no way most of
> those bikes would look like they do if there was no Riv.   Plus surly, soma
> and salsa fill in nicely for people looking for riv style bike at a lower
> price point (all three derived from the book of riv in my opinion).
>
> On Friday, April 19, 2013 5:15:03 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> wrote:
>>
>> In the recent thread about SunTour's comeback, this quote was presented:
>>
>> "Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component
>> business.  As he puts it “the market is too race-centric;  carbon fiber,
>> electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the
>> enjoyment of cycling.  In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to
>> nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of
>> cycling.”  For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring
>> components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday."
>>
>> Of course, most of us Riv fans will note that this echoes Grant's
>> published opinions over the years, as well as the sales pitches of a few
>> brands who've tried, with varying success, to get into the Riv-ish segment
>> of the market. I "discovered" Riv almost 10 years ago because I wanted a
>> certain type of bike that didn't seem to exist at local shops. What I
>> wanted was a touring bike, and the Atlantis I bought filled that desire.
>> Had I been able to find a Trek 520 locally, or if the LHT existed back
>> then, my story may have taken some different turns. But it was certainly
>> true back then that any readily available higher quality bike was going to
>> be some kind of impractical skinny tire road bike. Not my style.
>>
>> But things have changed drastically. Sure, many of us are baffled by
>> electronic shifting and seemingly delicate CF and 11-sp cassettes that have
>> become available. But at the same time, a HUGE variety of touring and
>> "adventure" bikes, parts, and accessories have become not only available,
>> but mainstream. So while I wish Junzo and SunTour success, I thought his
>> rationale seemed hollow, or at least 5-10 years too late.
>>
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