They've simply made the seat tube overly long, but the top of the head tube 
itself is well lower than the top of the ST.  If you like lower bars, 
that'll be great. If you want higher bars without lots of spacers or 
extenders , not so great. Back to using a long quill adapter on a brand new 
frame?  You really should not have to do that with a new frame if it is 
made to fit you.   If the steering tube is long enough before cut you can 
add some spacers, but only so many.  It's rather the opposite of a Riv type 
frame where the top of the HT is well above the top of the ST.  It's more 
like a track bike proportion.




On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:17:08 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Why do you say it's more like a 60 or 61?  Don't really care about 
> standover to tell you the truth, just want a comfortable, well balanced 
> ride.
>
>

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