Jim .... some Riv frames are assembled with spacers in a threaded headset stack to get some extra bar height with a traditional -17 degree stem. They've done this a long time, especially with the frames prior to the 6 degree sloping TT.
The 64 Sam would suit you great. Also being tall, I've never encountered a top of HT relative to ST that was Too Tall ! Having extra HT height is a good thing, especially if one day in the future you choose a bar like the Albatross or something. See the frame as in investment . What seems like a big difference today, in 10,20 years you will not remember at all. Look at broader perspective of owning it :) -- On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:44:58 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: > > It's a threaded quill on the Soma, so no spacers. > > I have one of those 225mm Nittos sitting around. If that's not long > enough to make the handlebars level with the seat, then the bike is not > acceptable. That's what I'm trying to work out in my mind. I will wait to > talk to Boulder Cycles before going any farther. I can make adjustments to > fit, but only within reasonable parameters. > > I did talk to Rivendell this morning. They think a 64 Sam would probably > fit, ostensibly because the TT upslopes 6 degrees. My PBH is 99 The 64 is > more than the other sizes though because they have to order it as a one-off > from Waterford and thusly it's $300 more and the lead time is longer. So > rather than being $700 more, it's $1000 more, basically three times the > price. > > Of course, I have no doubt in my mind that I would like it if Rivendell > says I would like it, so there's that. It's just that, getting a Sam would > involve me offloading my existing Rivendell most likely and that's an > emotional thing. > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Garth <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: > >> They've simply made the seat tube overly long, but the top of the head >> tube itself is well lower than the top of the ST. If you like lower bars, >> that'll be great. If you want higher bars without lots of spacers or >> extenders , not so great. Back to using a long quill adapter on a brand new >> frame? You really should not have to do that with a new frame if it is >> made to fit you. If the steering tube is long enough before cut you can >> add some spacers, but only so many. It's rather the opposite of a Riv type >> frame where the top of the HT is well above the top of the ST. It's more >> like a track bike proportion. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:17:08 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: >>> >>> Why do you say it's more like a 60 or 61? Don't really care about >>> standover to tell you the truth, just want a comfortable, well balanced >>> ride. >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
