On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:03:09 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
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> Did all French builders use the TT stays? 
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> Peugeot made many women's bikes with a single dropped top tube, but no 
extra rear stays. In the 1980s, their inexpensive models had the twin 
diagonal stays, but the more expensive,  performance-oriented women's model 
had the single, dropped top tube. I suspect the single dropped tube was 
influenced by the fashion for Italian bikes. Many Italian makers offered 
frames of this type. (In Germany where I grew up, it was very unusual even 
for a "sporting" woman to ride a "men's frame", so you saw these Italian 
frames, outfitted with Campagnolo components, on training rides.)

I've often wondered about the ride of these women's bikes. From a basic 
engineering perspective, I understand the idea that ending a tube in the 
middle of another tube is a big no-no – you want triangulation. That 
clearly is what Reyhand was thinking when he developed the model with the 
extra rear stays, which transmit the loads of the diagonal tube to the rear 
dropouts. On the other hand, the flexing of the seat tube (on the Italian 
frames) could provide a little suspension, which might not be bad. Then you 
have all the issues of frame flex and planing... where a "compact" frame 
(since that is what the Reyhand style was, if you remove the uppermost set 
of seat stays) might be stiffer than perhaps ideal for its rider.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com

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