K, once i start building that part, I'll try to see if I can set that
up, but use electronics. I was also thinking some sort of chain that
hung from the front of the hull and used a screw drive to push and
pull a harness that held the paintball gun, to allow for transverse,
mount that on some sort of arc shaped slide, and have another to push
and pull that setup. I think it might be too complicated to get to
work, and I don't even know that it would work.

For tracks though, would the v belt thing work? I was thinking more on
it, i could just use 2 and connect them in between with whatever I
could use for treads, and not have to have the 2 extra wheels for each
axle. It would sort of be like your Tyng track system, but using v
belts and the pulleys for them, since I definitively can get them
before i can get a treadmill belt. Since v belts do hold when
tensioned, but slip when they get locked up, that would save on a
drive system, so I could use the m1 sprocket type chain for that part.

On Apr 27, 1:04 pm, Steve Tyng <[email protected]> wrote:
> I see your doing a tank destroyer.  Review the mount design I did on
> my 25 pounder field piece:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat/browse_thread/thread/eaae...
>
> Included is a link to a Youtube video of the setup.  I've trashed the
> manual control of the design and am adapting a screw drive setup for
> traverse and elevate.  I'll try to post some pics of that soon.
>
> Steve Tyng
>
> On Apr 26, 10:08 pm, Weston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.servocity.com/html/spt100_pan___tilt_system.html
>
> > would that probably be too big to use?
>
> > On Apr 26, 3:01 pm, Weston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I could go with the tri pact speed control, but then I would need the
> > > turret transverse for precision aiming, which I do not know how to do.
> > > I also still haven't fully decided yet on what marker I want to use,
> > > and how to control it. I also have to decide on the track and
> > > suspension system.I am definitively going to use a Cheap Control
> > > System.
>
> > > I'm thinking for a track take a notch vbelt and have the track pads
> > > attached to it on the outside. I will have the pullies inbetween 2
> > > wheels for all the drive and idler and road wheels. That way, the belt
> > > is what is powered, the pads provide traction, and the wheels are for
> > > looks and help with little objects forcing up on the pads. What does
> > > any1 think?
>
> > > On Apr 26, 1:30 pm, Steve Tyng <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > For you first tank I'd recommend sticking with what has been proven in
> > > > combat.  The M1 motors are your best bet for propulsion.
>
> > > >  http://www.tncscooters.com/product.php?sku=106115
>
> > > > These can run at 12V just fine and at that voltage will provide a 3 to
> > > > 4mph speed.  Frank Pittelli can provide you with custom drive
> > > > sprockets that will adapt the M1's to standard ansi chain.
>
> > > > For a cheap controller you can build the on/off Tri-Pact controller:
>
> > > >  http://rctankcombat.com/articles/speed-control/07TriPactSpeedControl-...
>
> > > > If you want proportional control I'd recommend bitting the bullet and
> > > > get a decent dual channel mixing controller:
>
> > > >  http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/RP-SWDR.html
> > > >  http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/VT-RDFR33.html
>
> > > > If those controllers are to much for your budget someday Cheap Control
> > > > Systems is supposed to introduce a controller based on generic scooter
> > > > controllers but you may have to hold your breath a while for that.
>
> > > > Steve Tyng
>
> > > > On Apr 26, 7:47 am, Weston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I was trying to stay at 12 volts, but all the motors that would be
> > > > > powerful enough are 24v, so I'm going to have to have 2 batteries,
> > > > > which seems like that would take up an awful lot of space. What size
> > > > > is most batteries that are used? I was thinking just a regular car
> > > > > battery, but 2 seems to big.
>
> > > > > On Apr 26, 12:00 am, Derek Engelhaupt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > *Occasionally* the Victors and Vantecs come up for sale on Ebay.  
> > > > > > That's
> > > > > > where I got mine.  I have an active search on Ebay that notifies me 
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > they come up for sale:  "Vantec RDFR*" and "Victor 88*".  Those are 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > search terms I use.  I got two Victor 883s for about $150 shipped 
> > > > > > and my
> > > > > > Vantec RDFR38D was also right around $100.  But like I said, they 
> > > > > > don't come
> > > > > > up often on Ebay.  When they do, I buy them.  I'm using (and a lot 
> > > > > > of other
> > > > > > guys) the Unite geared motors like 
> > > > > > these:http://tncscooters.com/product.php?sku=106118orthese:http://tncscoote....
> > > > > >  Both are great motors.  I
> > > > > > have two sets of the first type and a set of the second type.  Both 
> > > > > > types
> > > > > > work great.  You have to keep in mind that an ISU-152 (also called a
> > > > > > JSU-152) is a large vehicle in 1/6th scale.  It's larger than my 
> > > > > > 1/6th scale
> > > > > > Sturmtiger.
>
> > > > > > Derek
> > > > > > T065
> > > > > > SV016
> > > > > > KV-2 in progress
>
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Weston <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > True, I put all the prices into an excel spreadsheet and it comes 
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > to about $750. I still wound need the paintball marker, all the
> > > > > > > building materials, the treads and such. I was just looking there 
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > now, and then gonna look elsewhere to see if I could get the same
> > > > > > > stuff or equivalent for less than what they want. I don't really 
> > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > much about this stuff, so that is why I'm asking for help.
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 25, 8:07 pm, Mike Måne <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Those parts seem awefully expencive! You might be able to 
> > > > > > > > improvise
> > > > > > > > for some of them. Try exploring these sites:
>
> > > > > > > > All Electronics:http://allelectronics.com/
>
> > > > > > > > Surplus Centre:https://www.surpluscenter.com/
>
> > > > > > > > -Mike M.
>
> > > > > > > > On 25/04/2010, Weston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I might switch to the ISU-122s variant, it has a ball shaped 
> > > > > > > > > manlet
> > > > > > > > > and a double-baffle muzzle brake, If I decide to make the 
> > > > > > > > > turret have
> > > > > > > > > that 11 degrees of turret transverse. The ISU-122 is also 
> > > > > > > > > called
> > > > > > > > > JSU-122, so I don't know what to look for now, but wikipedia 
> > > > > > > > > calls it
> > > > > > > > > the ISU-122, so I'm gonna stick with that.
>
> > > > > > > > > I might buy a 1/32 model, and then also use it to lay out a 
> > > > > > > > > paint
> > > > > > > > > scheme before I even start. I would get a scale drawing at
> > > > > > > > > AVFNews.org, but you have to buy 5 at $2 each, and I only 
> > > > > > > > > need 1. They
> > > > > > > > > don't have a 1:32 of the ISU-122/JSU-122 , but they have a 
> > > > > > > > > 1:48.
>
> > > > > > > > > I still need to decide if I want turret transverse, so 
> > > > > > > > > depending on
> > > > > > > > > how complicated that is determines if I make the S variant or 
> > > > > > > > > not. I
> > > > > > > > > also have to figure out a paintball gun to use, and how to 
> > > > > > > > > fire it. I
> > > > > > > > > would prefer the .68 caliber since I can find that a lot 
> > > > > > > > > around where
> > > > > > > > > I live for cheap.
>
> > > > > > > > > The following list of parts is what I am currently looking at 
> > > > > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > > now. I just have to see if it will all fit inside it once i 
> > > > > > > > > find some
> > > > > > > > > specifications.
>
> > > > > > > > > Control System
> > > > > > > > >http://www.cheapcontrolsystems.com/
> > > > > > > > > DeWalt Motor
> > > > > > > > >http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/BP396505-20.html
> > > > > > > > > DeWalt Gearbox
> > > > > > > > >http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/BP397892-05.html
> > > > > > > > > IFI Victor 883
> > > > > > > > >http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/IFI-V883.html
> > > > > > > > > Turret Elevation ESC
> > > > > > > > >http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-FT-TINYESC.html
> > > > > > > > > Turret Elevation Motor
> > > > > > > > >http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-GM11A.html
> > > > > > > > > Battery
> > > > > > > > >http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0B-35-925.html
>
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