Thanks for the ideas, everyone. Just a couple more points: 



The Thing-O-Matic is trying to move away from being a one-off device by adding 
features that allow repeatative part generation. From what I've read, though, 
the implementation doesn't allow for truly unattended production yet. 



If I start casting, I doubt I'll use the fast setting plastic that Frank 
mentions. I don't have faith in my ablility to get the casts done that quick ! 
If it takes me longer to get my track set, that's ok. I believe we've had this 
discussion before and the consenus was that the low end Smooth-On products (320 
and 325 series) were fine for tracks. Do I remember correctly ? I know that 
molds have a finite lifetime. Typically how many castings can I expect to get 
from a silicone mold ? 



I'm leaning toward molding and casting myself, but I like Franks offer of 
"prototype parts for molds". At least I wouldn't need to make my own molds and 
I could still play with a Thing-O-Matic. 



   - Doug 



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Ive worked with the 3d printers in the past. and the "cornstarch" powder 
machines  product a part that is very delicate. you can strengthen them by 
soaking in hot beeswax or by wicking CYA glue (superglue)through it and letting 
it cure. 

  

when using these as masters dont forget to take draft and shink into account. 

Jason 



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From: "Thomas Lum" <[email protected]> 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:18:19 AM 
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We have a "printer" at my school and would not mind printing some parts for 
people just to learn how it works. I'll get in touch with the tech guys and see 
what I need to do it. I did ask about cost and they said something crazy like 
$5 per cubic centimeter! 

Tom 

On Nov 02, 2011, at 09:25 AM, Frank Pittelli <[email protected]> wrote: 






Here are the disadvantages of 3D printing compared to molding parts: 

1) ABS plastic is not as durable as the polyurethane we use when molding 
parts. 

2) When molding, there's a 5 minute cycle time for a batch of parts (we 
do 8 parts per batch), each "part" will probably take at least 15 
minutes on a 3d printer. 

3) The plastic used by the printer is more expensive per pound than that 
used for molding. 

4) If necessary, you can easily add a strip of fiberglass to molded 
parts to increase strength. That is not possible with printing. 

Basically, when it comes to mass-producing parts, molding is the 
cheapest, fastest and most flexible approach. 

As Joe said, the real winning combination is to use a 3D printer to make 
the master part, then make molds from them. We've done that for a 
couple of parts (drive cog, experimental pumps) and it works great. If 
you do get a Thing-O-Matic, you should expect a never-ending stream of 
3D requests from Maryland for master part production (in exchange for 
mold making if you want). 

Frank P. 

On 11/1/2011 10:36 PM, Doug Conn wrote: 
> The Thing-O-Matic uses ABS plastic and produce parts the 
> required size and thickness. 

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