You were speaking with Joe and Frank on track design huh? Joe's still running his plastic conveyor tracks and Frank's stuff are copies of my designs. Neither of them have fielded a viable active suspension as of yet.
When you want to get serious about small scale performance tracked propulsion, drop me a line.... ;-) There's more than just big tabs in a well executed track and suspension system. For your motors, I'd stick with brushed for reliability starting in the 250W range per motor (as a minimum). If you have the room, the geared scooter motors are probably the cheapest option. Look to the robot competition world for tested and reliable motor controllers. Two good sites are Vex Robotics and AndyMark. Steve On Monday, April 15, 2013 9:39:13 AM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote: > > Steve, > I had that discussion with Joe and Frank. This "oversize" guide tooth will > not be implemented with the "scale Panther", but we might look into it if > we explore a variation of these tracks for this hull that will support > "gamer's performances". HOWEVER, our "surprise tank" that we are working on > right now, in the background of the Panther/Jagdpanther hull, does include > oversize guide tooth, and it does not even look bad for people interested > in scale. The tracks are "smooth" which will allow rubber pads or just > using as is, so make donuts on grass and asphalt, without chewing on the > hardware. > > As soon as the track is addressed, we also need to address motors. It is > obvious that the motors we have are under-powered, which is OK for the > purpose of scale and simple RC. But if we want a "gamer's product", we need > to upscale the entire engine, from gears, motors and strength of the hull. > We are also looking at those options for the "surprise tank"... Please note > that we are interested in keeping costs under control. For this to work as > a business, we need to offer these tanks at affordable prices. I'm still > looking at an affordable "gear/engine" system to install. Any suggestion? > > Thanks for your answer! We will keep on posting our progress > Loic > > On Sunday, April 14, 2013 7:19:13 AM UTC-6, TyngTech wrote: >> >> Loic wrote: >> >> "I'm contemplating a NEW product right now using our experience with the >> Panther hull, but more oriented toward the "gamers". The difficult question >> is always: THE TRACKS?" >> >> You hit the nail on the head. Our scale combat models operate in a very >> un-scale environment. They are asked to do things by their operators that >> a full size tank could never accomplish (in like field conditions) without >> throwing tracks all day long. The answer to a reliable track design is big >> ass tracking tabs! The taller the tabs, the less likely your going to >> throw a track (especially with active suspensions). Even with a tensioned >> solid suspension, large tracking tabs are beneficial. Joe's little Hetzer >> is a well designed and executed vehicle with a solid suspension, but he >> went with OTS plastic conveyor tracks that have tiny little tracking tabs. >> As a consequence, Joe's gotten very good at track remounting in the middle >> of a battle. With an active suspension, where the track runs loose around >> the wheels, tracking tabs are the only thing keeping things were they >> belong. >> >> In my designs, I build as large a tracking tab as possible with no regard >> to scale. This is for performance sake as I'm a "gamer" where function >> comes first and scale a distant second. This offers a quandary for you as >> your designs are most decidedly scale first. To offer >> a performance suspension for gaming, are you willing to redesign the entire >> suspension? We're talking not only larger tabs, but also the wheels and >> drive sprockets to accommodate them, maybe drop the segmented >> tracks altogether and go with a TTS belted design? Is there a market to >> support the time, effort, and expense? All good questions. >> >> Steve Tyng >> >> >>>>>> <http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w499/FOAtanks/251side2_zpseb3bae4a.jpg> >>>>>> >>>>> -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
