Strange, then... I've been labouring under the illusion we were dissenters all this time, whereas actually we were entirely conformist!
Well, I'm not sure what we'll go for in the end - although I think locally we'll probably prefer fl./flourished/active over adding occupations, not least because of the issue of polymathy, but these things are yet to be deterimined.... Cheers! Martin -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Moore, Richard Sent: 23 July 2012 13:42 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Christianity-centric terminology in RDA A quick search on our local copy of the LC/NAF reveals 28332 personal name headings containing the characters "fl". That will include some name-titles. The LCRI limited its use, except exceptionally, to spans of dates and to pre-20th century persons. Neither RDA nor the LCPS has either of those limitations. So in theory you could break a conflict with "active 1989" when a sole publication was known, though a qualifier for the person's occupation would almost always be more helpful. Which is why the LCPS for 9.19.1.1 advises the use of judgement in selecting the best qualifier, rather than rigidly following the RDA order of precedence in 9.19.14-9.19.1.6. Regards Richard -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kelleher, Martin Sent: 23 July 2012 12:43 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Christianity-centric terminology in RDA Odd we didn't get many fl.s, then - so did NACO used to have neither 'active' or 'fl.'? Seems to be on the MARC21 pages....I'm pretty sure they used to be filtered out according to 1 protocol or another, or perhaps it was just an unpopular practice...... I'm not sure whether 'active' is a better term or not - assuming you continue to limit to a single date, it'll look like whoever is being 'dated' was only active for a year (perhaps in torpor the rest of the time?), whereas flourished has more of a meaning of initialising. Activated? I suppose at least 'active' is a relatively short, uncluttering word! Martin -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Moore, Richard Sent: 23 July 2012 11:53 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Christianity-centric terminology in RDA Yes, "fl." was allowed in AACR2. You'll find it in the examples in AACR2 22.17A, and in many headings across the LC/NAF. Although the examples in RDA 9.19.1.5 spell it out as "Flourished", NACO practice follows the LCPS for 9.19.1.1, and prefers "Active". I suppose one can be active, without necessarily flourishing. Regards Richard _________________________ Richard Moore Authority Control Team Manager The British Library Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546806 E-mail: richard.mo...@bl.uk -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kelleher, Martin Sent: 23 July 2012 10:07 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Christianity-centric terminology in RDA I have never heard (or at least registered) the term common era before, and if I ever saw the term CE, I'd probably think it was something to do with either EU product standards or perhaps the Church of England..... mind you, I still expect RDA to regulate what I eat, rather than how I catalogue..... Anyway, as a replacement term I'm sure it's Doubleplusgood! Oh hang on is that what I meant? What's that other opinion..... can't quite think of the term..... express...... ;-) Anyway, Fl. wasn't allowed under AARC2 was it? I thought that was one of the more reasonable (re)introductions of RDA, albeit characteristically spelled out in the closest English term, in case it doesn't clutter the record enough as an abbreviation? ;-) Martin Kelleher Electronic Resources/Bibliographic Services Librarian University of Liverpool ************************************************************************ ** Experience the British Library online at http://www.bl.uk/ The British Library's new interactive Annual Report and Accounts 2010/11 : http://www.bl.uk/annualreport2010-11http://www.bl.uk/knowledge Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. http://www.bl.uk/adoptabook The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled ************************************************************************ * The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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