Benjamin,
The RDA element 20.2 is named Contributor, which is why there is no
designator. It wouldn't be needed in RDA because the element itself is
contributor. You wouldn't need to encode this in a designator, because it
would be redundant:
Contributor: Maxwell, Robert, contributor.
The problem of course is encoding RDA in MARC 21, because 7XX is not
solely limited to contributors.
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
Ed,
For me the question is--is it better to use an existing term that doesn't quite fit (like
"writer of added commentary") or to supply an "ad hoc" term?
Frankly I am somewhat surprised that in Appendix I, under "Relationship designators for
contributors", there's no simple term, "Contributor". That would be perfectly
adequate in this situation.
(Though as Bob Maxwell points out I could borrow that from the MARC relators
list.)
Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137
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The principal drawback I see to using ad-hoc terms is that they necessarily fall outside any structure relating terms in a hierarchical
manner. "writer of preface" will be identified as a specific kind of "contributor" because of its presence in a 7XX
field, but intermediate relationships, such those relating "sculptor" to "artist" and "landscape architect"
to "architect" will not exist.
There is also the likelihood of variability in the ad hoc terms used for similar phenomena. Books
not only have prefaces but forewords, introductions, etc., so there will also be reason to create
"writer of foreword", "writer of introduction", etc., to specify these similar
(but not identical) relationships.
This isn't to argue against creating these terms when needed--this is why it is
an open vocabulary--but to bear in mind that moving outside the defined
vocabulary terms has potential consequences in terms of linking data,
collapsing retrieval sets at a more general level, etc.
Ed Jones
National University (San Diego, Calif.)
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Thanks for the replies and suggestions.
--Ben
Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries
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The LC-PCC Policy Statement for K.1 says "Use only terms from Appendix K if
supplying relationship designators in the shared LC/NACO Authority File. Do not supply
terms beyond those found in this Appendix."
But there is no similar restriction in the LC-PCC PS for J.1 or I.1, so it would appear
that there is no reason you couldn't say "writer of preface"
if you felt you need to be more specific. One could also suggest new terms to
be added to these appendices if the relationship is common enough that having a
specific term in RDA itself would be of benefit (and it would provide more
consistency as well).
Adam
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Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
(206) 543-8409
(206) 685-8782 fax
asch...@u.washington.edu
http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Joan Wang wrote:
Hi,
These are general guidelines for using relationship designators.
General Guidelines on Using Relationship Designators
* Use relationship designators to indicate the specific nature of
relationships between a resource and persons,
families, and corporate bodies associated with that resource.
* Use relationship designators at the level of specificity that is considered
appropriate for the purposes of the
agency creating the data. For example, the relationship between a
screenplay and the screenwriter responsible
for the work may be recorded using either the specific relationship
designator screenwriter or the more general
relationship designator author.
* If none of the terms listed in this appendix is appropriate or sufficiently
specific, use a term indicating the
nature of the relationship as concisely as possible.
* If the element used to record the relationship (e.g., creator) is
considered sufficient for the purposes of the
agency creating the data, do not use a relationship designator to indicate
the specific nature of the
relationship.
Based on the guidelines, you can use "writer of preface" since it is more
specific and concise enough (I think).
Thanks,
Joan Wang
Illinois Heartland Library System
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Benjamin A Abrahamse <babra...@mit.edu> wrote:
If we are cataloging a work, with a preface by someone other than the
main author, RDA 20.2.1 says this
is a relationship between a person and an expression.
The examples in RDA 20 list this as "Writer of Added Commentary, Etc." In
Appendix I.3, "Relationship
Designators for Persons, Families, and Corporate Bodies Associated with an
Expression" I see the
following relationship designators:
writer of added commentary A person, family, or corporate body
contributing to an expression of a work
by providing an interpretation or critical explanation of the original
work.
writer of added text A person, family, or corporate body contributing to
an expression of a primarily
non-textual work by providing text for the non-textual work (e.g.,
writing captions for photographs,
descriptions of maps).
If I wanted to give an access point for this person, and use a
relationship designator, would I have to
use "writer of added commentary" (which is the closest fit, I think,
though not quite the same) or could
I use "writer of preface", which is not on the list?
Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137
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Cataloger -- CMC
Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
6725 Goshen Road
Edwardsville, IL 62025
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