Hi Folks: Because of our (cursedly) good web presence, we get perhaps 4 to 6 of these a day. When I got fewer of them (thinking perhaps they were not bogus), I would call the credit card(s) issuing bank -- you can get that information through your credit card processor, by giving them the first six digits of the card number. Then the issuing bank can contact the REAL card holder and verify if the transaction is on the up-and-up. But it's very time consuming, so now I just delete them. Vague orders are just scammers; we also have a nice collection of forged, stolen or voided bank checks and money orders. We do a fair amount of international business, but with those out-of-country customers, it's bank transfer only.
Let the seller beware! We haven't been hurt by such scammers, but I know of other businesses who have not been so fortunate. Chris Daum Oasis Montana Inc. 406-777-4309 406-777-0830 fax www.oasismontana.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Yago Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:01 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fake Email solar orders I am wondering if any of you are receiving fake email orders as I think they are a scam by hackers in China or other countries. They always start out asking for a very "odd" list of items they are looking for. For example, they will say they will take almost any brand of solar module and any size. They also ask for solar pumps or inverters, but do not care what size. If I am trying to order a pump, inverter, or solar module for a specific job, I would expect to know the size I need and not take whatever the supplier is willing to sell. Also, all of these email's have a non-business email address using one of those free email services, and always indicate they have also sent the same email to others as"un-disclosed." When we check the street address they give us, it is usually an apartment complex or residential area of a large city. They always say right up-front that they will be paying by credit card Finally, the real give-away is their grammar is never correct and they always mis-match the verb tense or there is a mis-match in subject-verb. Here is a recent one we received - Hello, Kindly get quoted pricing for these Grundfos well pump for us ,we would be glad for offer your discounted prices. LET ME KNOW THE POSSIBILITY OF THE SUPPLY AND KIND OF CREDIT CARDS YOU HOST FOR PAYMENT. MUCH REGARDS I have heard these scammers are using stolen or bogus credit card numbers which are good when you check, but a few days after you ship out the solar hardware the credit card is declined. I have also heard they ship to some apartment that is rented for a few months where the turn the orders around and ship overseas to 3rd world countries where they can get rid of almost anything that is solar with no questions asked. Has anybody been stung by these fake orders, and please do not check my email grammar!! Jeff Yago _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: [email protected] Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
