Has anybody on this list ever used Thermoil?  http://thermoil.com/

My dad has a Jeep that sits for months at a time while they travel in the 
winter.  He used Thermoil in the battery when it was new, and it's still going 
strong after more than ten years.  He also put it in the house batteries in his 
motorhome, and they still have most of their capacity after 12 years.  I'm not 
sure if it's related to the use of Thermoil, but he says that the battery 
terminals do not show signs of corrosion either.

It's about time to replace my 48V battery bank, and I'd sure like to hear what 
you guys think about this.  Comments from battery manufacturers would also be 
appreciated.


See ya!

Marv
Director of Technology and Support, North America
SolarEdge Technologies, Inc.
Tech Support North America:  +877.360.5292
Mobile: +530.392.0356

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:28 AM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Experience

Wes,
            Is there any reason why you are not considering Surrette? I see on 
the list that wrenches are talking about AGM, but I can't imagine using them 
when considering the size of your system. Their (Surrette) service has been 
A++. I have several systems that are now over 10 years old and show very little 
sign of aging. I love their dual containment system.

Good Luck,
Christopher Schaefer

________________________________
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Larry 
Crutcher,Starlight Solar Power Systems
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:05 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Experience

Ken,

Interesting. Do you know if Deka has more than one manufacturing plant?

My Deka representative did respond. Perhaps I could have expressed this better: 
the response was "they are out of warranty". I knew that.  However, due to the 
number of Deka battery failures we were experiencing, I would have expected 
something more than "no warranty".  They did replace one 8D that failed at 13 
months. Thanks Deka.

During the last few years that we sold and installed the Deka AGM's, we also 
sold Lifeline, Sun Xtender, Trojan, Optima and FullRiver. We sold 3 times as 
many Lifeline as we did Deka. Zero failures form any other brand.

I have a customer coming in today that has 2 8D AGM's. I installed these 11 
months ago. His complaint is that the voltage will drop to 11.5 within 5 hours 
of use. I'll let you know what I find.

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems



On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Ken Schaal wrote:

We have used Deka wet and sealed, AGM and Gel, since 1999 and never had a 
premature failure.
I have a set of 8D AGM's  in my own system.
The local factory warehouse is responsive to our needs.

Ken Schaal
CommonWealth Solar
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Crutcher,Starlight Solar Power 
Systems<mailto:la...@starlightsolar.com>
To: wes kennedy<mailto:hathaso...@yahoo.com> ; 
RE-wrenches<mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Experience

Wes,

While I don't have experience with the Deka Unigy AGM's,  I can tell you that 
we are experiencing many failures of the 4D, 8D and other 6 and 12 volt Deka 
AGM batteries. The company will not respond to the problems so we will never 
sell another Deka or MK (made by Deka) AGM battery.

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems
(928) 342-9103


On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:02 AM, wes kennedy wrote:

Howdy Gents,

I have a project (high altitude, off grid, 25 kw PV, 9 x SI5048's, 
multicluster) where I am considering two similar batteries.

The Absolyte GP (GNB 100G17)  vs the Deka Unigy II (AVR95-19).  Both have 
similar reported Lifecycle curves, 1200-1300 cycles at 80% DOD.

Any field experience to share? The Deka seems better on paper, larger AH 
capacity per dollar quoted from my distributor.


Thanks!

-Wes Kennedy
Solar Geek since 1996
303-653-3073



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