True but you would probably only use it on old batteries anyhow. Jon Hill Sierra Solar Systems
On May 28, 2012, at 8:26 PM, "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems"<[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jon, > > The product may recover some neglected, damaged batteries. Of course, it > would not be necessary if one would properly charge and equalize the battery > before sulfation occurs. The lead sulfate is converted back to sulfuric acid > in the electro-chemical process. Also, adding it to a new battery will void > the warranty. > > Larry Crutcher > Starlight Solar Power Systems > (928) 342-9103 > > > > > On May 28, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Hill wrote: > > Try Thermoil deslphator additive. Has good reviews. We are selling it. > > Jon Hill > Sierra Solar Systems > > On May 28, 2012, at 7:17 PM, "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power > Systems"<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dan, >> >> I'm perplexed. Where was anything mentioned about de-sulphators? Where was >> anyone "slammed"? What in the world are you talking about? Perhaps you meant >> to reply to someone else's thread. BTW, I do not recommend a desulfator or >> pulser be installed on batteries. >> >> I'll reiterate my points: >> 1. KC-120's from a certain production era fail and can be warranted. >> 2. Applying enough load will cause full current to flow from a PV array. >> 3. Sulfated batteries have high resistance causing a quick rise in voltage. >> >> I welcome your response but please reply off list. >> >> Respectfully yours, >> >> Larry >> >> On May 28, 2012, at 6:42 AM, <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Seems I have a stalwart "Battery Specialist" in the neighborhood still >> convincing folks that de sulphators are the smartest thing since sliced >> bread (And slamming anyone who disagrees). In my experience, sparklers have >> little to no effect on battery longevity and in most cases add unlisted, >> hazardous and unnecessary wiring devices to a potentially hazardous >> environment. Is tar and feathering still an acceptable means of dispute >> resolution.. or am I totally missing something? tks db >> >> Dan Brown >> Foxfire Energy Corp. >> Renewable Energy Systems >> (802)-483-2564 >> www.Foxfire-Energy.com >> NABCEP #092907-44 >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Troubleshooting Off-grid PV >> From: "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems" >> <[email protected]> >> Date: Sun, May 27, 2012 7:37 pm >> To: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> Check the dates on the KC-120 module label. If any were manufactured between >> January 1999 and December 2002, they have or will fail. We have been >> replacing these modules for over 8 years now. There was a defective solder >> joint during manufacture. Kyocera will still replace them under warranty >> even though they have no legal requirement to do so. They will ship you >> remanufactured 120's and pay for return shipping. Contact Kyocera about the >> procedure. >> >> If the batteries are sulfated, they will not produce the load necessary to >> drive the current high. Capacity has nothing to do with it; internal >> resistance does. You can test the array by pulling the voltage down (turn on >> some big loads) at solar noon. This will force the controller into bulk and >> reveal the maximum current the array can produce. I think you have two >> problems here. With bad modules, you may not see much. >> >> It is typical for a controller to transition to float very early in the >> charge cycle if the battery is sulfated. Look for a fast rise in voltage in >> the morning. This is an indicator of sulfated battery. A healthy battery >> will slowly climb in voltage. >> >> Let me k now if you need more understanding about batteries, charging and >> why MOST of them never see old age. It's my speciality. >> >> Larry Crutcher >> Starlight Solar Power Systems >> (928) 342-9103 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> >> List Address: [email protected] >> >> Options & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: [email protected] > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: [email protected] > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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