Drake,
As a normal CYA, I'll always gently let a customer know that this (or any) particular combination of inverter and load sometimes proves incompatible, just in case the unexpected happens. (We once had a MS4448 that would not reliably start and run a condensing boiler; a switch to a different boiler resolved the issue.)

Having said that note of caution, I wouldn't give it any concern. 3/4 HP and 1 HP well pumps have never been an issue; I would expect 1.5 HP to be easy to run. At 2 HP I'd be asking these questions here.

You might check that it's a 3-wire, capacitor-start motor, but nowadays nearly all are. Two-wire pumps (with no control box) can add 50% to the surge.

The Magnum has a fairly poor voltage regulation response. Sometimes the AC voltage can drop to ~80 VAC momentarily. So you might also caution your customer that the lights may flicker when the pump starts. In our home we know whenever our Kenmore fridge turns on.

Allan

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On 7/2/2014 8:17 AM, Drake wrote:
Hello Wrenches,

We are hoping to use a Magnum PAE 4448 to back up a household that includes a 3/4 HP deep well pump. There is about 120 feet of vertical rise and about 1000 feet of horizontal distance.

I have been told that there is a correlation between the locked rotor current of a pump and the predictable ability of a specified inverter to power that pump.

The plumber who installed the pump left no paperwork and retained no records of what pump he put in the hole last year. He could only say it was a 3/4 HP pump. We are therefore unable to obtain the manufacturer's nameplate specifications.

The Magnum PAE 4448 has a 1 mS surge of 70 A (at 240 V) and a 100 MS surge of 40 A. According to the NEC Table 430.251(A), a 3/4 HP motor has a locked rotor current of 41.4 amps at 230 V.

This inverter can surge at 35.4 A for 5 seconds. The specified battery bank will be 8 Full River  L-16 AGMs. Can anyone say if:
  • Is there enough information to know if this setup will handle the pump, and if so, will it?
  • How can an inverter's ability to power a motor or pump be calculated by knowing its locked rotor current? Which surge periods should be compared to the locked rotor current?
  • Does the surge current need to equal locked rotor. How long must the inverter meet its required maximum surge?
  • From experience with Magnums and pumps, does this seem like a good combination?

Thank you,

Drake

Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV
740-448-7328
http://athens-electric.com/


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