Yes, we're definitely planning a battery based inverter. The real trouble is when the generator is charging, its AC power passes through to the loads and hence to the Enphase inverters. Also I agree with the other poster about Outback being more cost effective. I just took a look at their Remote Operated Circuit Breaker (ROCB) and this looks like a good option. I've done dump loads before, and never found that to be an elegant solution. Any other options I should be looking at?

Thanks,

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 8/17/2015 8:36 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote:

I cant see this working well without some battery based inverter
Jerry

On Aug 17, 2015 10:10 AM, "Ray Walters" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    HI Esteemed Wrenches:

    I am consulting on a system I have never seen, that consists of a
    6.7Kw Enphase roof mounted system, and 2 backup generators.  Each
    generator has an automatic 200 amp transfer switch to back up its
    own 200 amp panel.  Both 200 amp panels are fed by a 400 amp
    service from the grid.
    The Enphase PV backfeeds a subpanel in another building which then
    is fed by a 2 pole 60 amp breaker in one of the 200 amp panels.
    Currently they are having issues with the generators kicking out
    because of the Enphase inverters.  That part I understand: you
    can't backfeed a generator, or its voltage regulation freaks out.

    Now we get to the fun part: they want to create a third critical
    load subpanel with loads selected from both 200 amp panels to be
    powered by batteries and an inverter.
    I am considering the Sunny Island since it makes the most sense
    with its ability to signal the Enphase inverters to shut off when
    the batteries are full.  I also see this as a partial solution to
    the generator issue, since normally the Enphase will be connected
    to the output side of the Sunny Island. However, when the
    generator is used to charge, we will be back to directly coupling
    the generator output to the Enphase.

    Here are some possible solutions I'm considering:
    1) Use a separate charger for the generator so that it will only
    feed DC to the batteries, and not be AC coupled.
    2) convert the PV back to DC with charge controllers, but that
    would involve ditching and adding another conduit run between
    buildings.
    3)  Put the Enphase PV on a relay that would disconnect the PV
    when charging with the generator.
    4) Something I haven't thought of that one of you clever folks can
    suggest......

    As always, thanks in advance for all you responses,

-- R.Ray Walters
    CTO, Solarray, Inc
    Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
    Licensed Master Electrician
    Solar Design Engineer
    303 505-8760 <tel:303%20505-8760>

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