On 27/9/06 19:19, "Tim Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sep 27, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Daniel Stenning wrote:
> 
> [SNIP]
> 
>> Talking of which there are other things in OSX that I suspect are a
>> legacy of
>> NEXT - what about the ridiculous directory system in OSX -library/
>> etc/ etc
> 
> Those are all part of the Unix underpinnings of OS X.  You (as a
> user) should NEVER need to concern yourself with them as the OS and
> admin tools handle the intricacies.

Not true - when one is removing an application one has to remove all the
associated files.


 And don't start me on uninstallers.  In a truly sophisticated and human
friendly OS ( and I DON'T mean UNIX guru friendly ) there really shouldn't
be any need for an uninstaller. It should be a simple matter of dragging the
application icon to the bin.  The OS should do whatever cleanup is necessary
under the hood itself.

> If you DO learn about them (on
> the other hand), they offer a power level for managing a Mac that
> never existed previously.
I am not talking about the hidden underlying UNIX system and associated
directries. But the Library/ system is an abonimation.
> As an experiment, I stripped an OS X
> system down to where ONLY the WindowServer was launching and
> everything ran as root (bad idea, I know, but still fun),  It's
> amazing how snappy a G3 500MHz iMac is when it's only running 5 tasks!
> 
>> In a modern supposedly user friendly OS, such directories should
>> have been
>> consigned to the bin.  ( scuse english unix pun - that's trashcan
>> to you
>> yanks )
> 
> To quote a UCB email sig I saw a while back - "Unix 'IS' user
> friendly - it's just very picky about who it calls friend."
> 
>> All those user preferences and bitty files related to an application
>> shouldn't be sprayed across the OS - windoze style-  they should
>> have been
>> put inside a "compartment" of the Application bundle. A single icon
>> for the
>> Application, resources, drivers , logs and preferences should have
>> been the
>> "Apple" way.  Why Jobs ever let the current OSX directory nightmare
>> happen
>> beats me.
> 
> Because it really is the best way for the OS to manage things.  It
> might not be the most logical from a user standpoint, but it's very
> specific and elegant once you understand it.

Rofl !  Well spoken - as a geek!

Actually I do understand it - but that's because I am a computer guy - it is
not the job of Mac users to have to understand these intricacies,
sophisticated or not. He/she just wants to use the bloody thing!

 Whatever happened to the Apple Mac philosophy of using graphical
abstraction to make computers useable AND trouble-shootable by non computer
literate people!


I use a lot of music software on the Mac. Each one might have an
application, different preference files and/ or audio plugins. All these get
sprayed in dfferent places.

>Otherwise, we'd all
> still be using DOS or CP/M.
> 
>> Ok.... That's my rant for today over..  ;)
> 
> Not a rant, a valid discussion.
> 
> Tim
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