Jonne,

UAC bites again, lol. Yes, naali must be opening data/default_bindings.ini read/*write*. In Vista and Windows 7, files under Program Files really shouldn't be opened for write. If UAC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control) is on, then Windows denies all attempts to write in Program Files.

This applies even if you are using it with an administrator account. However, you are correct that "Run as Administrator" will work. When I ran as administrator, I was able to "Reset to Defaults". So, that is the best workaround yet.

On 4/2/2010 8:59 AM, Jonne Nauha wrote:
*Shack* Well if you don't get any keys with default bindings then this is different. My best guess is that you don't have a admin account or you are not running in administrator mode. We are using Qt frameworks QSettings to do there .ini configs, I tell QSettings to open data/default_bindings.ini this might require read and *write *access to the file. I'm not sure if we are still having issues to run naali with write access under program files if you are not admin.

You can try this:
1. Remove c:\users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\realXtend\bindings\current.ini this will force Naali to get data\default_bindings.ini on the next start 2. Locate your Naali install folder, right click on the folder -> Properties, with the attributes and un-check "Read-only" if set. Do the same for <naali_install>\data should apply this to default_bindings.ini 3. Go to Naali install folder and right click on viewer.exe -> Run As Administrator

This is not a proper solution but if you do this and get bindings loaded ok then we have more data to fix the bug. If it works you could do only steps 1. 3. first, might do the trick also. As we have had run as administrator fix things that write inside data folder. I think the proper solution is to only read data/default_bindings.ini and writing it to same place once as current.ini in appdata. Thanks for reporting back so we can make Naali better :)

Ps. We should make a separated thread for "Having problems with Naali 0.2.0", Ryan?

Best regards,
Jonne Nauha
realXtend developer

http://www.realxtend.org/
http://www.evocativi.com/


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Ryan McDougall <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Jonne, you've really outdone yourself with the new getting started
    guides!

    That's some pretty tireless work there. :)

    Cheers,

    On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Jonne Nauha
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > Wiki Updates
    > I have now went through the Getting Started With wiki pages. Had
    to update
    > some out dated information. I also made them nice and shiny with
    images and
    > proper formatting. Modified the wikis main page to make a bit
    more sense
    > also :) On the Naali page I didn't edit the Avatar and
    Environment editor
    > parts, I'll leave those to the original writers to check if
    information is
    > out dated.
    > http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Naali
    > http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Taiga
    >
    > To Shack You are having some mysterious issues there. How the
    bindings
    > works, on startup it goes to check your config folder and checks
    if a custom
    > config has been defined. If so it will be used (as your case is
    when you
    > went and defined those movement buttons) other wise it will
    fallback to
    > default bindings. The default bindings are located in
    > data/default_bindings.ini and this file never changes, only get
    read when
    > default is needed on startup or you click reset to naali
    defaults from the
    > UI. One possible explanation is that either the file has been
    tampered with
    > to have invalid key values or there is some kind of read/write
    violation
    > going on. The latter would not explain why it gets some default
    keys and
    > others not. Very mysterious indeed, I cant figure quickly what
    could go
    > wrong there but I'm glad you found a fix for this via the UI. I
    would need
    > to replicate your situation to fix the bug, and that might be
    quite hard as
    > I have never crashed like that :) Lets see if others will
    experience the
    > same bug to get more info about it.
    > Best regards,
    > Jonne Nauha
    > realXtend developer
    >
    > http://www.realxtend.org/
    > http://www.evocativi.com/
    >
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Shack Dougall
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > wrote:
    >>
    >> Jonne,
    >>
    >> Thanks for the help!  Thanks to you, I was able to get it running.
    >>
    >> I was trying to use the realXtend avatar, but I didn't
    understand that it
    >> required something outside of the Taiga install.  I switched to
    an OpenSim
    >> avatar and I was able to get in.
    >>
    >> After that, the only problem was that the movement keys were
    not defined
    >> when I first entered the world.  Naali would connect and login
    to the world
    >> fine.  I would see the island and the water, but if I pressed
    any key, then
    >> Naali would crash with a dump.
    >>
    >> Through experimentation, I discovered that all of the other
    controls were
    >> working.  I could open the inventory, change the sun, edit the
    avatar, etc.
    >> And when I looked at Settings > Controls, I noticed that the
    Movement keys
    >> were not defined.   I tried Restore Naali Defaults, but that
    had no effect.
    >> However, it started working when I manually set the movement
    keys to W S A
    >> D.
    >>
    >> Thanks again!  --Shack
    >>
    >>


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