Wow, you were right and you weren't even part of the discussion. Impressive.




On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I wasn’t there, but I remember a vehement argument around that time.
>
> Rest Pedro and start Stanton.  The chances of winning the series is better
> that way.  I was proven right.  A bunch of guys were saying that you have to
> win the next game.  Thus you have to pitch Pedro on 3 days rest.  Hooey.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 3:16 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Lackey
>
>
>
> I take a large issue with the "flat" issue. I don't think Baseball is a
> game of passion like Football or Hockey. Quite the contrary, trying to hard
> can have an adverse affect on performance.
>
>
>
> On a lighter note, I'd like to take this moment to wish us all a happy
> anniversary. It was 10 years ago this month a few of us began emailing with
> each other to chronicle the historic first (and ultimately disappointing)
> battle between teh Sox and Yankees in 99. The emails grew into a listserve
> that you see and enjoy today.
>
>
>
> Hard to believe.
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:07 PM, William Marino <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> It is the special High Definition feelings channel.  The one that let’s you
> get into the players’ heads.
>
>
>
> Kidding aside, this is a common theme on the debates on this board.  Ray
> leads the numbers only camp.  John (I think) leads the intuition camp (Ray
> would say witchcraft camp).  I think there is more intuition that Ray thinks
> and more to the numbers than John thinks.  This is why I’ve come around on
> Francona.  I think he walks this line very, very well.
>
>
>
> Sox will win tonight.  Becket has an extra gear in the playoffs.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Beaudoin, John
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 2:02 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Lackey
>
>
>
> Well I FEEL that they were 3000 miles away, tense in the play-offs, and
> playing until their body clock of 1AM, starting at a time when they would
> normally wind down at home on the couch.  It matters.  But they’ll be back
> today.  Just wait and see.
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 1:33 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Lackey
>
>
>
> The numbers actually support your hyphothesis.
>
>
>
> I was listening to Felger and Mazz on the Sports Hub yesterday. (As an
> aside, a vast improvement over the Big Show. I highly recommend setting your
> dial to 98.5 rather than 850. Or, visit, 985thesportshub.com and listen
> online.)
>
>
>
> Anyway, some Globe or Boston.com reporter ran the numbers. The Sox are
> hitting something like .217 against the best pitchers in the league (not
> sure of the number or how they're defined, but I'll trust the reporter.)
> League average against those same pitchers is .240.
>
>
>
> The Angels hit .270 against those same pitchers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> wimp.
>
>
>
> Seriously though, what I said was that the team is not hitting.  Call it
> "flat", call it "lack of momentum", call it a random period of bad luck,
> whatever, hitting has been a problem against good teams lately (ie. the
> Yankees in September).  Ray asked "why is it bad hitting and not good
> pitching?"  and I used Lackey's stats to illustrate my point that while
> Lackey (and Darren Oliver) are good pitchers, we are making any decent
> pitcher look like a Cy Young candidate right now.
>
>
>
> Maybe that will change tonight.  I certainly hope so.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi
>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 1:07 PM
>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Lackey
>
>
>
> Course the only feeling I got was the top of the couch cushion on the back
> of my head. Tried to stay up, but...
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Now see, you should reference the numbers...
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 1:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Lackey
>
>
>
> Feeling = talking out of ass.
>
>
>
> Seriously, you guys watched this televison right? What kind of feeling
> would you get from 3000 miles away.
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I agree.  However, when trying to communicate with Ray, I find he responds
> best to numbers.
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Beaudoin, John
>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 11:26 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Lackey
>
> We were flat.  You know I'm not a numbers guy, but rather a feeling guy.  I
> felt they were flat.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri Oct 09 08:08:21 2009
> Subject: Lackey
>
>
>
> Yeah, you're right, I don't mean to take anything away from Lackey.  He was
> good.  I just think we made him look better than he really is last night.
> On the season the guy has a 1.27 WHIP, 3.83 ERA and a .263 BAA.  Good
> numbers, but remember that he's pitching a lot of those games against the
> depths of the AL West.  For the game last night he was 0.67 WHIP, 0.0 ERA
> and .153 BAA.  You would think an offense like ours should be able to
> produce at least average numbers against him.
>
> In general I just feel like our bats are not producing.  Plus I knew I
> would get a rise out of you if I mentioned anything about momentum, streaks
> or trends.
>
> Big game tonight - I'm glad to know Beckett is taking the ball.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Orsillo
>
>
> Why is it that when the other team gets no runs its due to our great
> pitching, but when we get no runs its due to our lousy hitting.
>
> Are we the only team with great pitching?
>
> On 10/9/09, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The calls at first base were just unbelievably bad.  Lester got
> > screwed out of a couple strikeouts too.
> >
> > Bottom line is the team is not hitting!  I'm not going to bring up the
> > M word, but Francona put the bats to sleep in the last 3 weeks of the
> season.
> > It's hard to just flip the switch and say it's playoff time!
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
> On Behalf Of Beaudoin, John
> > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:25 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Orsillo
> >
> > Watched it all while chatting online.
> >
> > Worst umpiring I've seen in a long time.
> >
> > Everyone was tight. Nerves. Both teams and umps.
> >
> > Lester looked great. Defense sucked and had brilliant moments too.
> > Hitting was ... Not
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [email protected]
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thu Oct 08 20:08:33 2009
> > Subject: Orsillo
> >
> > Anybody watching?
> >
> > umpires suck.
> >
> > Nice to have Orsillo doing the play by play...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in
> Just 12 Weeks"
> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
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