Actually wasn't grouping you in with the bridge jumpers :-) I don't have a problem with people having reservations and doubts and gripes. Just with people saying the season is over 20 percent of the way through, with 30 games or so left against the teams ahead of them. Silly and stupid, mathematically and baseball-wise -- which has been shown in a week's time.
The Sox could very well miss the playoffs, but is it not safe to say that they are in the race? Steve O On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > You're missing the larger point. I had reservations about this team and the > whole run prevention approach in January and said so. I hope I'm ultimately > proven wrong, but please don't lump me in with the bridge jumpers. Please, > I'm typically the biggest Red Sox apologist out there. I'm just not buying > what they're selling this year. > > Yes, he said it. You can Google for the multitude of interpretations on > what he meant to say when he said it. But I hardly fine a strategy of > bringing in "old guys who we think can play" very comforting. > > Of course they're going to "compete" for a title. They're spending $170 > million. It'd be hard not to win more games than they lose and compete for a > title. > > But how solid is this plan? > > Hell, they're moving Ellsbury back to CF, presumably because the old > outfielder who can still play can't still play either because he's injured > (which comes with age) or incapable. > > Last time we checked, Cameron was the better CFer and wasn't comfortable > playing the corners. I guess that's changed. > > We brought in Marco Scutaro to add offense to the line up. Well, we know > how Gonzalez is doing in Toronto (I actually don't fault Theo for this.) > Meanwhile, Run Prevention Scutaro is ranked among the bottom of AL > shortstops. > > And V-Mart is an adventure at catching, although improving. > > I gotta go but just because someone isn't so hot on this team doesn't make > them a hysterical overreactor. Likewise, I won't accuse you of drinking too > much Red colored Kool Aid. > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Steve Ouellette > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I don't remember Theo actually calling it a bridge year. Did he use those >> words? Even if he did, I don't take bridge to mean "won't compete for a >> title." It means "will bring in old guys on short contracts who we think can >> play." >> >> There is a fascinating New Englandian tendency -- maybe it's just a Red >> Sox phenomenon? -- to throw oneself off a bridge at the tiniest hint of >> trouble. Wait, not fascinating, aggravating. >> >> Baseball is a game of averages. Things even out over time. The Sox have >> outstanding pitching -- I don't think anyone disagreed with that at the >> beginning of the season. The question going in was if they would hit enough >> (which I think too much was made of). Injuries can happen, but if those >> don't get in the way, Josh Beckett will not be sporting a 7-plus ERA in >> September and John Lackey won't be at 5 either. >> >> Similarly, the Rays will come back to earth and the Padres will not win >> the NL West. >> >> It's not unreasonable to have questions and worries when a slump hits -- >> especially at the start of the season -- but it just seems excessive to call >> the season over 30 games into the year when there was, and is, every reason >> to expect them to play better. >> >> I too was pissed at the incredible crappiness of the April Sox. Just >> thought that surrendering was a silly option. >> >> Steve O >> >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hey, Theo called it a bridge year, not me. I just quoted the guy. >>> >>> I'm still not convinced this team is very good. Drew hasn't missed his >>> obligatory 20-game stretch yet. I'm not sure Papi can keep this up, but I >>> hope he can. Varitek is not going to finish the season with a 1.000-plus >>> OPS. The bullpen is dicey and I'm pretty sure our starters aren't going to >>> go into the eighth inning most games. >>> >>> Maybe Dice-K has found his groove, but he'll have to fight his history. >>> Buccholz is better than I thought. Lester will be better than he is. >>> Beckett, who knows. Same for Lackey. Maybe he'll end up on the DL as well. >>> >>> For the record, I'm not miserable. I'm just a fan who has concerns. I'm >>> not sure why you happy folks have to dump on those of us who disagree. I'm >>> not critical of anyone else who thinks highly of the team as long as they're >>> intellectually honest and hold consistent opinions. >>> >>> Let's see how the season plays out. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> 91 games. >>>> >>>> I stand by my prediction. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What do you mean convert? >>>>> >>>>> I've been pleading patience all along. Our pitching has been the worst >>>>> in the league, but it's not REALLY the worst. There's a big correction >>>>> coming (or now begun). >>>>> >>>>> I've been amazed at how many people gave up on the season sometime in >>>>> mid April. >>>>> >>>>> Steve O >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Beaudoin, John < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A convert? >>>>>> Welcome to the fold, Steve. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Guys, we have a good team to follow. Leave the Fellowship and join >>>>>> the Realist Alliance. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From*: [email protected] < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> *To*: [email protected] < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent*: Tue May 25 04:03:50 2010 >>>>>> *Subject*: Re: Two games behind Yankees >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah? Well...blah blah to you to! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This season is over ... blah blah ... too far behind ... blah blah >>>>>>> ... time to rebuild ... blah blah ... Theo has failed us ...blah blah >>>>>>> ... I >>>>>>> give up ... blah blah .... this team sucks ... blah blah ... no hope, no >>>>>>> hope, no hope ... blah blah. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The insurmountable deficit for the wild card lead has been cut to two >>>>>>> games and we're not even out of May yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>>>>> www.fpgasimulation.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>>> www.fpgasimulation.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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