But Crawford doesn't play center. He's a left fielder whose biggest asset is his speed, so Fenway limits his defensive value somewhat. I certainly wouldn't turn down Crawford, but he doesn't really fit. Another lefthanded hitter and his price is going to be ridiculous, thanks to Jayson Werth. I don't want to give any OF an 8-year contract ... I don't mind throwing Ryan Kalish out there in left. I think he's going to be Trot Nixon with a little speed. --
So he fits now because he only got seven years? Saltamatek is a lot easier to take now that they have Crawford and Gonzalez. Had they both been in place when Martinez walked you wouldn't have heard a peep. But they weren't. Theo gambled, let a premium hitter go at a fair market value with the hopes he could secure two better ones. Fortunately, he did. His plan worked. But at the time there was no guarantee that it would. But I think it's still a fair question to ask. What's more valuable, Martinez catching @ $12m a year or Crawford, a redunancy in some people's eyes since the Sox have some OFers, in the OF at $20+? Bottomline, I'm happy with the team as its constituted. But there's more than one way to build a baseball team. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > I don't remember a lot of caveats about there being four months to go > before the season starts. I just remember a lot of "why didn't the cheap > bastards just give Victor whatever he wanted?" > > I don't think I've changed my tune. They went and signed one premium free > agent, and they made a good baseball move trading some prospects for a power > hitter in his prime. They spent big dollars on two guys who are still in > their 20s and likely to hold their value -- or at least a good chunk of > their value -- through the end of their contracts. The payroll is still > currently lower than last year's. > > The bullpen is a crapshoot. I'll just cross my fingers. > > Steve O > > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oh stop. If you don't want real-time commentary on the Sox start a Sox >> correspondence with John and Abigail Adams. We all issued the caveat, we'll >> wait until the rest of the off-season. I had no idea the Gonzalez deal would >> come together this quickly. And Crawford - as you noted - didn't seem like a >> precise fit. >> >> Although you seem to have changed your tune on that. Did you reconsider >> your position or just pour another scoop of Kool Aid in your morning >> Cheerios? :) >> >> The thing with Victor is this. The Sox didn't want him. Fine. Then why >> shortchange him on an offer. Just let the guy go. >> >> And what if Victor had said yes? Could the extra $12m on the payroll have >> torpedoed the Crawford deal? >> >> Anyway, Theo has $10m to build a bullpen. This is his achilles' heel (and >> not his alone.) Let's get'er done. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Steve Ouellette >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> It's sad, really, that the Sox still have no chance to win because the >>> penny-pinching bastards let Victor Martinez get away. >>> >>> Steve O >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Matthew, can you just enjoy the moment? I could see standing against the >>>> deal in principle, saying the Sox didn't need to overpay for his particular >>>> talents. But why worry about Gonzalez? Theo has that figured out already. >>>> >>>> I'd like a little more pop, but I'm a Crawford fan from way back so I >>>> cannot complain. And I'm happy the Red Sox are wearing their big boy pants. >>>> I feel like I'm getting a $50 per ticket effort. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow. I never thought they'd go that high for Crawford. He's a >>>>> terrific player and he'll certainly help them but I can't say I'm >>>>> thrilled. >>>>> If he gets this kind of deal, what is Gonzalez worth? Maybe that Liverpool >>>>> deal is providing new streams of cash... ;P >>>>> >>>>> -- Matt >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Sent:* Thu, December 9, 2010 12:18:44 AM >>>>> *Subject:* From Boston.com >>>>> >>>>> Red Sox to sign >>>>> Crawford<http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/12/red_sox_to_sign.html> >>>>> >>>>> A Major League source had told the Globe the deal is for seven years >>>>> and $142 million. >>>>> >>>>> More to come. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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